cokin p-series filters

[peterb666]

Organic Glass? is that the plastic?

Steve.

CR39 is "Columbia Resin" formula number "39" and is a plastic that is otherwise known as allyl diglycol carbonate.

[peterb666]

maybe Cokin do have some of their filters in glass, but definitely not the P series.

The polariser is glass, AFIK all the rest are CR39. They will chip on the edges if dropped. I do that a lot (accidently drop them).

They will scratch if you are determined but are reasonably tough and provided you are careful should last a few years without scrating.

[stixstudios]

Ahh, that makes more sense now - thanks guys.

I'm happy to get the landscape kit and try them out and work out which one/ones suit my style.

I can always then get a better quality one ie. hi-tech/lee/singh ray/tiffen, when I can see that quality is holding me back.

The 'veiling flare' issue concerns me a bit though - not that I take a lot of shots directly at the sun. Is this less of an issue with the more expensive filters?

Now I'm a bit confused Perhaps I'd be better off getting the holder & conversion ring and 1 good quality filter???

Steve.

[jjphoto]

They will scratch if you are determined but are reasonably tough and provided you are careful should last a few years without scrating.

I agree they will last years but all of mine have scratched with carefull use on my part. They often rub on a part of the holder, which tends to scratch them right down the middle of the filter, so they tend to scratch by design. However it does depend on how you use the holder and this can be avoided if you only use the slot furthest away from the lens as there are 3 slots in the holder. Using the slot closest to the lens will tend to scratch the filter as it can and does rub on the holder itself. I tend to use this slot because my holder has had some 'bath room surgery' to reduce vignetting with wider lenses (I've cut off the front 2 slots on the holder that I tend to use the most often).

JJ

[jjphoto]

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I can always then get a better quality one ie. hi-tech/lee/singh ray/tiffen, when I can see that quality is holding me back.

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Those filters are not all available in the Cokin P size so if you go to those filters in the future you may have to buy the respective holders which can be much more expensive.

...The 'veiling flare' issue concerns me a bit though - not that I take a lot of shots directly at the sun. Is this less of an issue with the more expensive filters?

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I've never used Lee, Singh ray, Hi-Tech so I can't compare but I believe they are made of various forms of plastic/resin/acrylic. I've often wondered how they compare to Cokins in terms of flare and resistance to scratching and general wear and tear. I'm not prepared to buy one of each to find out but I think it would take a direct comparison to really know how they perform in the most difficult conditions. I'm sure they are all fine in normal use.

JJ

[peterb666]

Those filters are not all available in the Cokin P size so if you go to those filters in the future you may have to buy the respective holders which can be much more expensive.

I don't know about Tiffin, I didn't even know they made gel or non-framed glass filters. They certainly are avialble in Hitech as I have 4 different Hitech filters in P size and from memory they are available in SinghRay Lee as well. They are 85mm wide filters and both brands have an extensive range of ND, GND (hard and soft) as well as Rev-GND. Lee even have narrow strip filters in that size too. I think both Lee and SinghRay even do 75mm filters too.

[RebelT2]

Thanks Arthur - I forgot about needing the adapter ring - 58mm in my case too.


Let us know Rebel, how you go - roughly what price are you paying for the whole kit?

Steve.

$89 for the kit ans $29 for a 58mm adaptor ring from Quality Camera Sales..Hoping to try it out on the Watamolla shoot next week..

[peterb666]

$89 for the kit ans $29 for a 58mm adaptor ring from Quality Camera Sales..Hoping to try it out on the Watamolla shoot next week..

It should come in handy.

[ving]

thanks for the info folks. looks like i might use a bit of my tax return on this piece of kit

[arnica]

Great little addition if you are just starting landscape photography

[wattsgallery]

I had the same query.

In the end I went with the cokin p-holder (from AP sponsor Quality Cameras) and ordered some hi-tech filters from the UK. Its a bit of a hybrid option but the filters fit fine and I was worried about the Cokin quality. I haven't had a chance to use them extensively yet but so far so good.

Cheers
Josh

[ashey]

I went with the Z series bought from Quality Cameras they are bigger 6" x 4" they do the job ok by the time they are u/s I might have saved enough for a few Singh Ray filters but this is not a cheap hobby /profession so going with the cokin for starters is a good way to practice using filters and getting a better understanding of when to use them.

[Regnis]

I went with the Z series bought from Quality Cameras they are bigger 6" x 4" they do the job ok by the time they are u/s I might have saved enough for a few Singh Ray filters but this is not a cheap hobby /profession so going with the cokin for starters is a good way to practice using filters and getting a better understanding of when to use them.

how do they fit with your UWA (siggy 10-20) I have the same set-up and am very interested to know. Can you shoot at 10mm with them?

Any how much did the whole setup cost?

cheers