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wideangle
01-09-2011, 6:58pm
When you need a higher ISO value, do you ever use increments other than 100,200,400,800 etc or do you also use 125,160,320,640 etc?
Personally just the majors... 100 200 400 800 etc
http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showlibrary.php?title=New_To_Photography:Detailed_explanation_of_ISO
old dog
01-09-2011, 7:23pm
there is a thread here somewhere (I think it was on AP anyway) that talked about positive (I think this is the terminology/word) ISO`s etc. Like.....if you selected ISO 200, the camera ran as normal....but if you went ISO 160 for example, the camera leaned a bit heavier on sharpening at the expense of dynamic range and if you went ISO 240 instead, the camera selected a slightly wider dynamic range at the expense of losing a little sharpening. It is the same for ISO 400, 800 and so on etc. I think I have this right. have a look on Google as it may have been there that I read about it. Maybe someone else can explain it more than me.
errr ... check the link in my post above :Doh:
wideangle
03-09-2011, 7:11pm
Thanks for the link Kym, it's interesting though as I find that there are wide ranging debates on this issue, some saying that whole ISOs are better, whilst other say that others are more effective.
JM Tran
03-09-2011, 7:20pm
Kym's link doesnt really shed a more in-depth look into the ISO number debate, its just a basic guide into ISO really.
I know for videographers with DSLRs, they are proponents of the use of ISO 160, 320 and so on instead of the normal base or whole numbers. I havent looked into why yet though.
MarkChap
03-09-2011, 7:24pm
For me, I use the full stop increment for ISO, the "in-between" numbers are only 1 third of a stop, which I can then acount for by way of the other exposure options available to me
Kym's link doesnt really shed a more in-depth look into the ISO number debate, its just a basic guide into ISO really.
I know for videographers with DSLRs, they are proponents of the use of ISO 160, 320 and so on instead of the normal base or whole numbers. I havent looked into why yet though.
Could be something to do with the GH2 or is it the same with other commonly used cameras for videography eg. 5D2??.
When I was playing with the GH2 for a couple of weeks and doing some research, if memory serves me right 160, 320, 640 etc. were the preferred increments. Can't quite remember what the reasoning was though. I think the base ISO on a GH2 was ISO 160 hence 'nice' multiple increments produced less artifacts possibly.
On my Fuji and Nikons I tend to also go with nice multiples of the base ie. 100, 200, 400 etc.
Could be something to do with the GH2 or is it the same with other commonly used cameras for videography eg. 5D2??.
When I was playing with the GH2 for a couple of weeks and doing some research, if memory serves me right 160, 320, 640 etc. were the preferred increments. Can't quite remember what the reasoning was though. I think the base ISO on a GH2 was ISO 160 hence 'nice' multiple increments produced less artifacts possibly.
On my Fuji and Nikons I tend to also go with nice multiples of the base ie. 100, 200, 400 etc.
That is my understanding, i.e. use power of 2 multiples of the base ISO.
And a Mark said, you can easily get 1.3 stops from either aperture or shutter speed.
JM Tran
05-09-2011, 8:47pm
Could be something to do with the GH2 or is it the same with other commonly used cameras for videography eg. 5D2??.
When I was playing with the GH2 for a couple of weeks and doing some research, if memory serves me right 160, 320, 640 etc. were the preferred increments. Can't quite remember what the reasoning was though. I think the base ISO on a GH2 was ISO 160 hence 'nice' multiple increments produced less artifacts possibly.
On my Fuji and Nikons I tend to also go with nice multiples of the base ie. 100, 200, 400 etc.
Same for the 5D2 according to video forums Dave, I need to find out why if I plan to shoot a lot of videos soon!
darrenmars
07-09-2011, 2:03pm
Just recently I discovered that I can change the stepping in both my bodies... I promptly changed the ISO value to whole stops as the third-stop thing drove me nuts. I already have the ability to do that with the shutter speed and aperture. I try to stick to the native ISO as much as I possibly can anyway.
Just recently I discovered that I can change the stepping in both my bodies... I promptly changed the ISO value to whole stops as the third-stop thing drove me nuts. I already have the ability to do that with the shutter speed and aperture. I try to stick to the native ISO as much as I possibly can anyway.
Darren, one very handy benefit of using 1/3 stops in ISO is to set a desired shutter speed and aperture and then set ISO to auto ( within a specified range ) to allow the camera to meter as closely as possible when photographing subjects like birds who are prone to move quickly between open sunny spaces and shaded branches etc.
darrenmars
08-09-2011, 1:37pm
I'll be sure to keep that in mind in the future, but generally I don't need to do that. Great tip tho!
If setting manually I generally use either 200 (base) or 800. Occasionally I might use 1600 but generally when it that range I'll use auto-ISO like Andrew mentioned to try to keep the ISO at the minimum needed to maintain a set s/s.
Incidentally my D300 (and I assume other Nikons ?) will use the 1/3 and 1/2 stop ISO settings when in auto-ISO mode regardless of what the ISO increment step is set at.
Cheers.
Wobbles
08-09-2011, 11:42pm
There is a great article here that explains the misconceptions about native (i.e. 100's) and pushed/pulled iso's.
http://shootintheshot.joshsilfen.com/2010/05/13/canon-hd-dslr-native-iso/
Cheers
John
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