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alf6
02-08-2011, 9:14am
Hi. I see lots of comments about 'soft focus' but cannot get my head around why the image is classified as such. Is soft focus an element all by itself for reasons unknown to me, or is it really just a version of 'out of focus'. Meaning pretty close but you just missed. If there is a diffenernce, what are the reasons soft focus occurs.

Looking forward to some good answers - Thanks.

Tannin
02-08-2011, 9:24am
Well, here is a bad answer. :(

There is soft focus (the sort of warm and fuzzy look photographers aim for to do soppy romantic greeting cards). This is apparently a good thing in its place, and there even used to be lenses specially designed to do it.

And there is soft focus (not quite sharp - not exactly out of focus, but not quite in focus either). This is a bad thing.

The second one is easy enough to understand. The first one I frankly don't understand, but I'm sure some kind soul will be along to explain it to us soon enough.

agb
02-08-2011, 9:36am
Canon still have a soft focus lens. And on this site you can see the effect in a sample photo.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_135mm_f_2_8_with_softfocus

jjphoto
02-08-2011, 9:52am
Hi. I see lots of comments about 'soft focus' but cannot get my head around why the image is classified as such. Is soft focus an element all by itself for reasons unknown to me, or is it really just a version of 'out of focus'. Meaning pretty close but you just missed. If there is a diffenernce, what are the reasons soft focus occurs.

Looking forward to some good answers - Thanks.

As others have stated;

1/ There are specific 'soft focus lenses' which may have a dial or similar to change the soft focus effect. In this case the image itself is always sharp but aberrations are added to give it a glow or softness. They are portrait lenses and not general purpose lenses.

2/ 'Soft filters' can be used on a lens to give the image a softness which can be useful for to hide skin blemishes. These days that's all done in photoshop however I prefer softness to the plastic look so common these days. Soft filters can even be things like hosiery stretched tight over a lens, or vaseline on a UV/Skylight filter on the lens although specific 'soft filters' also exist.

3/ If an image is described as 'soft' than maybe it has nothing to do with the above and is simply not very sharp, ie slightly out of focus or lacking sharpness for some other reason. Alternatively the lens itself might not be very sharp there fore rendering a 'soft' image, even if it is accurately focused. Many fast lenses are not very sharp wide open so the images may be a little soft.

JJ

William
02-08-2011, 10:59am
Hi there Alf, Just an example of an in Focus shot , With a "Soft Focus" applied in PP , Gives you a dreamy look , Works well with Trees in the shot ,


"Normal , In Focus"

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6132/6000477146_fdaf71b53e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57507865@N06/6000477146/)


"Soft Focus applied in PP"

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6002/6000477284_70b1c89abc_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57507865@N06/6000477284/)

Cheers Bill :)

Ms Monny
02-08-2011, 11:05am
Yep, some lenses will give you a 'soft' look (my crabby 55-250 kit lens is a shocker) at the high or low end of the zoom.

Many people will use the term 'soft' loosely but I think if someone is showing you an image and says the word 'soft' in the description, then it is probably intentionally soft, like a dreamy look. If someone is giving critique and uses the word 'soft' than they are most probably stating it is oof.

kiwi
02-08-2011, 11:22am
You also need to differentiate between soft photos being out of focus compared to motion blur caused by a too low a shutter speed. Both contribute, or can contribute

I've also heard all Canon lenses are soft, but that could just be scuttlebutt

ameerat42
02-08-2011, 11:51am
Good demo, WIlliam.
I once made up a "soft focus" filter, and it worked! I got a piece of translucent baking paper, about 2 inches square, cut a round hole in the middle about 1/2 inch across, then with what remained, cut about 20 triangular fingers into it so that they all pointed in towards the central hole. The whole lot was mounted on a lens using a made up cardboard mount. It worked on lenses that had an aperture more than about 1 inch.

A reportedly common method was to lightly smear some sort of vaseline around the edge of a clear filter, like a UV filter and shoot thru that.
Am.

colinbm
02-08-2011, 12:45pm
Glad wrap :th3:
With or without a hole of various sizes.
Col

Rattus79
02-08-2011, 12:56pm
Just a point, "soft lenses" still don't bounce... Please dont' try this at home.

ving
02-08-2011, 1:09pm
canon, the king of soft focus! :p

I dont really understand the need for a lens that purposely makes thing OOF, but there you go. as stated there are filters that will do this. but its really easy to just not focus sharply.

dannat
02-08-2011, 7:05pm
Good thread alf, I know my eyes are slightly wrecked from a couple of years of microscope work but I often have trouble detecting a soft image ( from poor lens/ focus) while others quickly tell me...that's sharp / that's soft,,,I am thinking huh what's the big diff?