Should exif data be displayed with photo

[bricat]

I'm not sure about how to read or find exif data attached to a photo. Some images I have seen display the data(http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?84440-exif-link-test ) and some don't but say the data is attached(http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?80156-exif-test ). So there must be a simple explanation that I can't see. Please explain
cheers Brian

PS. Am I allowed to display links to other entries?

[ricktas]

Display or inclusion of EXIF is entirely up to each member who posts the photos. We are not about to tell people that they have to, or do not have to. It is personal choice.

The best way to view EXIF is the download an EXIF add-on for your internet browser, and then all you need to do is right click the photo and select 'view EXIF' or similar from the right-click menu (PC - Mac's do it differently, but it is still available for Mac users).

Internet Explorer : http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Digital-Photo-Tools/ID-EXIF-Button.shtml (note I have not installed or tested this one, just got it from google)
Firefox : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/fxif/

for all : http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/

Remembering that if you right click and there is no EXIF available, that is cause the member has stripped it, which is their choice.

[kiwi]

I will say that without EXIF that technical advice is very difficult to offer in a thread

[bricat]

Thank you forn your quick reply. Have downloaded and installed program and can now view the exif data. I obviously was not aware it was an add-on. If there are other add-ons that make the site work better or more completely is it possible to put them into a little group. Just a thought as I could not find any info about viewing exif data and I used the search button. Of course I realise someone has to actually collate this so I don't wish to make work for anyone. Thanks again much appreciated cheers Brian

[mercho]

Thank you forn your quick reply. Have downloaded and installed program and can now view the exif data. I obviously was not aware it was an add-on. If there are other add-ons that make the site work better or more completely is it possible to put them into a little group. Just a thought as I could not find any info about viewing exif data and I used the search button. Of course I realise someone has to actually collate this so I don't wish to make work for anyone. Thanks again much appreciated cheers Brian

Already done:

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showlibrary.php?title=Technology:EXIF_and_Other_Plugins&highlight=exif+viewer


Plus a quick search: ;)

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?78288-EXIF-data&highlight=exif+viewer

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?75172-EXIF-information&highlight=exif+viewer

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?72631-What-EXIF-do-I-download&highlight=exif+viewer

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?23504-EXIF-viewer-for-Safari-..&highlight=exif+viewer

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?74131-EXIF-Reader-Viewer-for-Win-7-IE-8&highlight=exif+viewer

I personally like being able to see the exif as well from a CC point of view, however depending on what program i edit with depends on whether I keep it. "save for web" in PS seems to strip it (this can prob be changed) where as lightroom keeps it intact...

[Kym]

Methinks a library page is needed ... anyone willing to write one up?

[Longshots]

I will say that without EXIF that technical advice is very difficult to offer in a thread

Certainly a very good point.

however its worth noting that without exif data/meta data, the image can also be succeptable in the future to being considered an orphan work, as it has nothing attached within the data to specify who the creator was, and what the state of any reproductive rights are. While that may not be an issue in Australia at this point in time, it certainly will be an issue outside the domain of Australia. And as this is a world wide web, its worth considering all various countries/nations intentions when it comes to dealing with copyright both now and in the future.

So yes - its wise to ensure that the data is kept attached to the image IMHO.

[mikew09]

I realy heavily on exif for my learning - I like to see which lens used, body type and settings. Trouble is, a number of photo hold sites like flickr tend to strip it out if you provide a link to it, well in my experience anyhows. So when you right clink on a photo that is a link from flickr, you don't get exif anyways - I find this frustrating and disappointing. However; I do agree that it is purely up to the individual on whether to include exif or not and I respect that - is nice to see though.

[Xenedis]

When it comes to the matter of whether one should or should not display EXIF data, I choose to preserve it.

Exposure settings, lens information and other camera-written technical data can be quite useful for those who wish to learn. I see no need to suppress it.

[terry.langham]

I realy heavily on exif for my learning - I like to see which lens used, body type and settings. Trouble is, a number of photo hold sites like flickr tend to strip it out if you provide a link to it, well in my experience anyhows. So when you right clink on a photo that is a link from flickr, you don't get exif anyways - I find this frustrating and disappointing. However; I do agree that it is purely up to the individual on whether to include exif or not and I respect that - is nice to see though.

If you click on the photo and view it on Flickr, there is a message to the right that tells you when and where and what camera it was taken with. If you click on the camera type it will take you to a page with the exif and metadata that was attached to the image. It won't show however if the data was stripped before uploading to FLickr.

[ricktas]

If you click on the photo and view it on Flickr, there is a message to the right that tells you when and where and what camera it was taken with. If you click on the camera type it will take you to a page with the exif and metadata that was attached to the image. It won't show however if the data was stripped before uploading to FLickr.

It also only generally shows on the 'original' filesize. Any of the 'resized' versions that Flickr can display, generally do not have EXIF included.

[bricat]

Thanks to mercho for those links. I will try firefox now and see what happens. IE I found easy and I guess now it is being outstripped by newer programs. cheers to all for replies Brian

[terry.langham]

If you click on the photo and view it on Flickr, there is a message to the right that tells you when and where and what camera it was taken with. If you click on the camera type it will take you to a page with the exif and metadata that was attached to the image. It won't show however if the data was stripped before uploading to FLickr.

On this screen click the link where the red circle is,

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and it will take you here.

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[ving]

i dont think its is necesary to display exif and I generally dont. Its a personal choice that should not be forced. I also think it is quite possible to critique a photo without exif. you will find that most potography competitions do not show exif and yet we are able to crit entries...

when critiquing a shot we dont say "that shot looks great cause you set the aperture to f8" we say the the DoF and focus are spot on... or something along those lines....
If however you want help fixing the shot or knowing where the shot went wrong technically so you know what to do next time then exif is handy

for the record the browser Opera has a built in exif viewer... no need for messy downloads and plugins. :th3:

[Xenedis]

i dont think its is necesary to display exif

It's not so much a matter of necessity; it's just information that can be useful, especially to beginners wanting to know how to achieve a certain effect.


I also think it is quite possible to critique a photo without exif.

Absolutely.

I rarely ever look at EXIF data. Usually it's not of particular interest to me, or I can recognise the kind of setting (eg, focal length, aperture or shutter speed) which could have produced a given result.

In some cases I have been able to identify the lens because it produces a 'signature' look. When I afterwards checked the EXIF data, I was right!