The end of the Internet? (IPv4 --> IPv6) [UPDATE] IPv6 for AP!

[Kym]

UPDATE IPv6 for AP below!

Refer: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showlibrary.php?title=Technology:IPv6_What_the_A_quick_guide_to_big_changes_on_the_net

http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2011/delegation


APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in February 2011 and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near future:

* 39/8
* 106/8

Reachability and routability testing of the new prefixes will commence soon. The daily report will be published on the RIPE NCC Routing Information Service.

Please be aware, this will be the final allocation made by IANA under the current framework and will trigger the final distribution of five /8 blocks, one to each RIR under the agreed "Global policy for the allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space".

In English ... the local authority APNIC has been given the LAST block of IPv4 address that can be doled out.
These will run out in the next few years.

So ISPs will have to make do after this, and things will start getting interesting.

Don't panic, but changes are coming.

UPDATE IPv6 for AP below!

[kiwi]

Thank god, I'm so over the Internet

[Kym]

More ... http://www.impress.com.au/press-releases-mainmenu-1/internode-mainmenu-48/1133-internode-ready-for-ipv6-arrival-and-ipv4-runout.html

@kiwi - hand in your iPhone, 'puters, job etc. As none of these work without the 'net. When do you want your AP account closed? :lol:

[ricktas]

Thank god, I'm so over the Internet

Guess what, your computer has an OFF switch!:D

[agent86]

its not that big a problem as these days routers use network address translation, all that means is your isp will give you a private ip address that gets translated to a public ip address, there are 3 ranges of these 10.0.0.0, 172.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0 (might have the octets wrong as its been a while since I did networking 101), and with ipv6 coming out we will have plenty of address spaces, the reason we havent started using ipv6 is because we havent needed to!

[macrocephalic]

IPV6 is a big deal though. A LOT of equipment doesn't support it. A LOT of systems will be programmed to use IPV4 addresses (think VPNs etc).

NAT is what has allowed us to go this long without switching to IPV6 - but it's not a great model going forward. Having NAT for your home or office is one thing, but you wouldn't want to have NAT for a whole ISP, or a whole country.

[Xenedis]

In English ... the local authority APNIC has been given the LAST block of IPv4 address that can be doled out.
These will run out this year.

It should be noted that this is simply the last /8 APNIC (ie, a regional Internet registry) has been allocated, and thus made available for allocation to service providers.

The supernets service providers already have is another story. There's likely to be a lot of address space out there, but obviously the 4.2 billion IP addresses IPv4 offers is not sustainable forever without using NAT or moving to IPv6. The sky won't come crashing down quite so soon.



NAT is what has allowed us to go this long without switching to IPV6 - but it's not a great model going forward. Having NAT for your home or office is one thing, but you wouldn't want to have NAT for a whole ISP, or a whole country.

It seems to work for Telstra, as Telstra assigns RFC 1918 addresses to customer mobile devices.

[Kym]

its not that big a problem as these days routers use network address translation, all that means is your isp will give you a private ip address that gets translated to a public ip address, there are 3 ranges of these 10.0.0.0, 172.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0 (might have the octets wrong as its been a while since I did networking 101), and with ipv6 coming out we will have plenty of address spaces, the reason we havent started using ipv6 is because we havent needed to!

NAT (and CIDR) have been around for a long time and have extended the life of IPv4. But that has reached its end. You're right --- need drives change. The need is upon us (in the next couple of years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

Bottom line CIDR and NAT are not that scalable. IPv6 is coming and some ISPs offer it already (dual stack).
We actually need to be migrating now (or at least seriously planning) as you will see bits of the 'net become unavailable to IPv4 only user and businesses.

Its not like a hard Y2K date, but something that will sneak up on people.

My next router will have IPv6! It would be silly to buy a router today that does not have IPv6. (Although the vendors will love you for it)

[Kym]

An update...

I've been running dual stack Ipv4/IPv6 for a while.
It makes little difference as there are yet very few IPv6 only sites,
due to the fact the the IPv4 address space still has a bit left, although all address blocks are allocated.

That said, many ISPs have deployed IPv6 or are in the process of doing so.
The latest model routers from most vendors support IPv6 and many older models have had firmware upgrades
(my Billion 7401VGP-R3 got IPv6 firmware this year).
And even if your router does not support IPv6 then ISPs provide a tunnelling service where you can get IPv6 over your IPv4 connection.
You get IPv6 with the NBN by default.

Even Bigpong have IPv6 http://www.zdnet.com.au/telstra-launches-ipv6-for-businesses-govt-339321752.htm (Business & Government)

AP will be dual addressed as soon as our hosting provider allows that.
We need two things to happen:

cPanel (our server management console) have full IPv6 support (expected early 2012)
Hosting provider to deploy cPanel with IPv6

NB: Our hosting provider has deployed IPv6 on their network infrastructure.
My guess is that AP will be IPv6 enabled near the end of 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment#Australia

[Kym]

Big News!!!

AP will be IPv6 addressable in the near future,
hopefully in time for IPv6 world day.
(6th June 2012)

More information:
http://www.worldipv6day.org/

http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showlibrary.php?title=Technology:IPv6_What_the_A_quick_guide_to_big_changes_on_the_net




Details/technical:

It will be seamless dual stack, i.e. we will have both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses for www.ausphotography.net.au
If your ISP provides IPv6 (eg. Internode, Telstra Business),
and you have it turned on in your router and on your PC you will be access AP via IPv6
NBN will have IPv6
Windows 7 has IPv6 on by default
The latest MacOS has IPv6 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4667
Windows XP has a free IPv6 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2478747
Linux will most likely have IPv6 enabled, you may need to configure your firewall



Q: So what do I need to do?

A: Nothing! Unless you want to.

Eventually IPv6 will be default for everything, but right now we are just getting ready

[Duane Pipe]

Never heard of it until I read this thread Kim :confused013
I did a compatibility test using this site.. http://www.worldipv6day.org/

Here are the results. I have only just looked into it and from what I think I have learnt so far is all that I need is a IPV6 compatible router :confused013

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/SwearBear2/test-2.jpg

[Kym]

Or upgrade the firmware in your router and turn IPv6 on (and ensure its available from your ISP) :th3:

[Duane Pipe]

Thanks for that Kim. :beer_mug:

[Kym]

We did not make IPv6 Day but our hosting provider is making some progress.
See: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?110252-Site-Outage-advice-%28this-Sunday%29-9th-September&p=1066173#post1066173

We will keep you informed

[Kym]

AusPhotography is now IPv6 Enabled :cool:

For most users you need to do nothing. If IPv6 is available it will be used.

What does this mean?

If your ISP supports IPv6 (eg. Internode) and...
Your router and ISP account are setup for IPv6 and...
Your PC is setup for IPv6 then:
AusPhotography will use IPv6 instead of IPv4 :th3:


In Firefox there is a nifty addon that shows the site status (4 or 6) http://www.hunen.net/4or6/

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Technical notes:
You may need to restart your router and PC to ensure you flush the DNS cache to pickup the IPv6 address as it was only setup today

[Kym]

'node IPv6 setup http://www.internode.on.net/support/guides/internet_access/ipv6/

[arthurking83]

For those with Optus .. IPv6 is not available.

[Kym]

For those with Optus .. IPv6 is not available.

Bigpong is only IPv6 for business for now (I Think)

NBN is fully IPv6

iiNet has a trial and is expected to go production in 2014

[Kym]

Speaking of NBN ... Simon Hackett is on the new NBN board http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/our-people/board.html

[Kym]

Your IP address now shows on the page footer

104906

[Kym]

If you are running a site then here are some useful links...

Release notes
http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/1140ReleaseNotes#IPv6

Blog... (video how to)
http://blog.cpanel.net/ipv6-update/

Instructions...
http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/WHMDocs/EnableIpv6

[Kym]

IPv6 Adelaide to AP


$ tracert www.ausphotography.net.au

Tracing route to www.ausphotography.net.au [2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2001-44b8-021b-cf00-c225-06ff-fedc-e5f0.static.ipv6.internode.on.net [2001:44b8:21b:cf00:c225:6ff:fedc:e5f0]
2 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms loop0.lns20.adl6.on.ii.net [2001:44b8:8060::a]
3 31 ms 31 ms 30 ms te3-3.cor1.adl6.on.ii.net [2001:44b8:8060:2e::1]
4 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms xe-11-0-0.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net [2001:44b8:8060:34::1]
5 54 ms 50 ms 50 ms 2001:4478:1:1::22
6 100 ms 59 ms 59 ms 2001:4478:1:1::f
7 198 ms 196 ms 197 ms 2001:44b8:f010:2::1
8 198 ms 198 ms 199 ms 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:504:0:3::6939:1]
9 237 ms 226 ms 226 ms 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:72::2]
10 198 ms 197 ms 220 ms profuse-solutions-llc.gigabitethernet3-2.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:1:20c::2]
11 198 ms 197 ms 198 ms 2604:6600:fffe:814::2
12 198 ms 197 ms 197 ms 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9

Trace complete.

[Kym]

IPv6 update:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/021714-ipv4-278692.html

Whatever happened to the IPv4 address crisis?

The day of reckoning still looms – it’s just been pushed out as the major Internet players have developed ingenious ways to stretch those available numbers. But these conservation efforts can only work for so long.


ARIN currently has “approximately 24 million IPv4 addresses in the available pool for the region,” according to President and CEO John Curran. They’re available to ISPs large and small, but Curran predicts they will all likely be handed out by “sometime in 2014.”


Even then, addresses will still be available to be assigned to the operators' clients for a while longer. And not all operators are likely to experience shortages at the same time. "It's more of a problem for networks that are growing. For networks that are stable, they can reuse addresses" as some customers drop their service and new ones sign up.

Australian Government: http://www.finance.gov.au/sites/default/files/Endorsed_Strategy_for_the_Transition_to_IPv6_for_Australian_Government_agencies.pdf (Old)

Current Australian progress: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/463904/internet_industry_reports_progress_ipv6_work_remains/ (2013)

[Kym]

Update (two in one day :) )

http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2014/02/googles-ipv6-stats-pass-3-less-than-5-months-after-passing-2/


Google’s IPv6 Stats Pass 3% Less Than 5 Months After Passing 2%!

Wow! The pace of IPv6 deployment is rapidly accelerating! This morning Google’s IPv6 measurements crossed the 3% milestone just under five months from when the 2% milestone was crossed. Prior to that it had taken 11 months to go from 1% to 2%.

To be clear, what Google is measuring here is the percentage of users that access Google services over IPv6. Given the range of IPv6-connected services that Google offers, including YouTube, Google+, and Gmail, these measurements do provide a good view into the amount of IPv6 deployed in access networks around the world.

What is driving this growth? In a post on our Internet Technology Matters blog, my colleague Phil Roberts writes:


More operators in more countries are deploying IPv6 and increasing the size of their subscriber base that use the technology. You can see the list of networks that have measurable IPv6 deployments in the World IPv6 Launch. You can also look at the Google country graph of Europe to see that there are substantial deployments in Switzerland, Belgium, Romania, Germany, and France, for example. The IPv6 traffic from Belgium alone has almost doubled in the last month.

As Phil notes, we recently predicted IPv6 will get to 10% deployment this year and while that may be an aggressive prediction it is very clear that IPv6 is no longer something that will be mythically deployed “some day“. IPv6 deployment IS happening… and more rapidly than ever!

If you haven’t been thinking about making your content available over IPv6 and/or making your network work over IPv6, now is definitely the time to do so! Please check out our IPv6 resources and please do let us know how we can help you make the move!

[Kym]

IPv6 was down for the last few weeks, but has been re-enabled since we moved to the Cloud earlier in the week.


$ ping www.ausphotography.net.au

Pinging www.ausphotography.net.au [2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9: time=198ms
Reply from 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9: time=197ms
Reply from 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9: time=204ms
Reply from 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9: time=196ms

Ping statistics for 2604:6600:2::7f8c:2df9:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0

[Kym]

Curiously... Facebook's IPv6 address is 2a03:2880:f002:1:face:b00c:0:1

[Kym]

Aggregated roll-out stats, Australia (but not AusPhotography) lag :(

https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/