500d + 16-35mm lens

[mrrunx]

Hey people,

In a little dilemma. I own a 500d and want to upgrade my multi purpose Canon EF-S 18-200mm lens to a wide angled lens like the 16-35mm L series lens but putting it on the 500d will not serve its purpose as its not a full frame camera. I do plan to buy a full frame camera (5d mark II) in the future but won't have the money to buy it before my trip to japan. Would you still go ahead and buy the lens or not? suggestions would be great. I've read/watched alot of reviews and would love to own the 16-35mm lens.

cheers

[Gemini2261]

The quality of the pic's will be better than your current lens but I expect the use of it may be limited depending on exactly what you like to shoot. :)

[mrrunx]

The quality of the pic's will be better than your current lens but I expect the use of it may be limited depending on exactly what you like to shoot. :)

Thanks for the reply,

Whilst on my trip to Japan i will be taking photos of shrines, temples, castles, waterfalls, buildings, mountains all this during the cherry blossom season in March/April.

Would the EF 16-35mm lens still be wider than using the EF-S 18-200mm lens on the 500d?

Cheers

[peterb666]

Seems like a high cost to gain just 2mm in range.

Why not look at the Canon 10-22mm zoom?

[dulvariprestige]

You won't get that much difference in FOV, but the IQ and speed will be better than the 18-200.

How long before you pick up a 5d, if it's over 6mths, I'll agree with Peter in getting the 10-22 or even a sigma 10-20 or tokina 11-16 and then just sell it when you get the 5d, you don't loose much when you resell those lenses.

If you do go with the 16-35 and need to get more in the frame, turn your camera to portrait and do a pano.

[mrrunx]

thanks for the reply,

yeah it really doesn't make much sense to spend so much to gain so little although the other thing that appealed to me with the 16-35mm was the speed. Not only did i want to shoot landscape but also smaller things like the flowers on the cherry blossom trees, the numerous dishes ill be ordering, signs etc and create DOF or bokeh.

Will i be able to do both landscape and semi macro-shots (not sure if thats the term for it) with the canon 10-22mm lens? Also which focal point on average is used most for landscape between 10mm and 35mm?

Cheers

[dulvariprestige]

Just remember, the wider the lens, the more DOF you will get, the easiest way to work that out is to look for a DOF calculator online and have a look.

While the 10-22mm has a great min focus, it's a bit wide for marco types of shots, you're better off using your 18-200mm @ 100- 200mm, most people seem to use the center point focus and recompose, for landscapes I usually use live view and manual focus.

[pollen]

Buying a 16-35L II for a 500D is like buying an expensive van to drive one passenger with you to work. The extra capacity goes to waste on a 1.6X camera

[Arg]

I suggest the Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS, it is a great standard zoom with top notch image quality, fast f2.8, and IS. No other lens can match it. I love mine.

If, or when, you eventually and maybe one day do go to full frame, sell the 17-55 used for a good price (and rue the fact that nothing in FF can replace it!).

[Tatts]

He wants to go wider though, whilst the 17-55mm is a great lens it won't be much wider than the 18-200mm. as dulvariprestige said, grab a UWA lens like the Canon 10-22mm or the cheaper sigma 10-20mm and sell them when you go full frame. kinda like renting it for 6 months and it will only cost you a few hundred dollars.

[mrrunx]

Yeah looks as though the 10-22mm wins. thanks for the help guys

[Brian500au]

As an alternative have you thought about the 12-24mm Sigma. It will work both on the 1.6x and a full frame.

[Roosta]

Yeah looks as though the 10-22mm wins. thanks for the help guys

When you go to purchase this said lens (The Sigma 10-22 not the Canon 10-20) If you do, Ask them to price match through CR Kennedy (Australiain Imported of Sigma and other 3rd Party Lenses) Go to one of the online importers like DWI, or Digital Rev (also site sponsor) and get their best price, take that with you to your local Pro Camera Shop and they should/will price match it with a full warranty Ozzie lens. :th3:

[rowdy23]

just buy the 16-35 i say.
im pretty sure the l series suits the 500d and the mk2.
so once you get the mk2 it will be full frame with your new lens

[bushbikie]

I would suggest going with the Canon EF-S 10-22 to get your wide angle shots, but have you considered hiring one for your trip?

[Bennymiata]

You might even find that you can get the lens cheaper when you arrive in Japan or on a Hong Kong stop-over.

I've usually found that the prices the grey importers are offering here can easily be beaten by retailers in Hong Kong.

[tmd77]

I'm hoping to get the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 for xmas. Have you looked at that lens?
I've got a 450d and was in the same position on what to purchase (16-35/17-40/24-70). I got convinced by another tog mate to go with the tammy.

For under $400 grey-market, its hard to go wrong.
Obviously depends on whether you're wanting UWA or just WA

[sonofcoco]

If you want something that is very wide, then I'd go for the Canon 10-22mm or something similar. Otherwise, as others have suggested, the 17-55mm is supposed to be a nice lens. You'll get constant f2.8 with IS. And you'd only be losing 1mm in focal length whilst gaining IS, 20mm on the long end, and money in your wallet.

[fabian628]

If you do go for the 16-35, i would suggest a second lens that is on the longer side. maybe the 55-250 or 70-200 lens.

The 16-35 is wide, even on the crop it is very wide, and you dont get much range. The 18-200 has great range, and will allow you to zoom in and get shots that you may not get if you had to change lenses. It also has IS which i found was quite effective.

I was in japan recently, i took two lenses, the 17-40 and the 135mm f/2. I was using them on a 1000D and felt like i would have liked a wider lens, but saying that, it did a good job. I found my favourite shots were with the longer lens. It allows you to get close and personal shots from far away.

[acko]

Yeah, well as you can see from the sig line, I have a 40D and have just bought the Canon 16-35 L 11 2.8, and I love it.
It fills out the bottom end of the range for me, and as I intend to buy a full frame Canon next year it will fit in nicely.

[mrrunx]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the input. I thought about hiring the lens for the trip but didn't think it was worth it. My parents went to Hong Kong and I asked them to purchase the Canon 10-22mm lens and i'm quite happy with it. I paid $625 (made in japan) for the lens which is not a bad price. I could of actually got the lens for about $500ish if going for the "made in malaysia" model. All the savings in the lens went to UV filter my parents got conned into buying i think. They got me a Protama UV filter which i heard is a Hong Kong based company. I think it cost about $83?

Anyhows i may have to get my camera sensor cleaned now. looking through the viewfinder i can see a black dot on the lefthand side but does not show up on pictures so i left it. Yesterday after some seascape shots and loading them up on the computer i noticed a black dot on the top righthand side of my pictures which is quite noticable "although" i can't see the dot through the viewfinder. Here is an example of the dot on one of my pictures. What do you guys recommend or any feedback?

cheers
jason

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[Roosta]

http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/methods.html

[peterb666]

A black moon or a dust bunny on the sensor. That's why you cannot see it in the viewfinder.

Congrats on the lens.

[fabian628]

that must be a really big bit of dust, or your using f/32 :p
the dust on your sensor becomes more prominent at longer local lengths and narrower apertures.
On a wide lens, it usually doesnt show except at tiny apertures

[mrrunx]

ahhh that explains it. pictures were taken at f/22. ill give it a good clean.

how about the black dot when looking through the viewfinder? is that dust aswell?

thanks for the responses once again!

[Arg]

Swap between Live View and viewfinder view. Present in former only = sensor, latter only = mirror or viewfinder, both = lens (or subject!).

[mrrunx]

it cant be seen in live view only through viewfinder view. i think i might just get a professional to clean the sensor,mirror and viewfinder. hopefully it doesnt cost too much.

[fabian628]

probably a spec of dust on the focus screen. I you get a rocket blower and blow some air into the camera mount, it most likely will come out.
Similar to the large dust spec on your sensor. A rocket blower is a good start to cleaning the sensor. It wont get off really hard stuff, but if your camera is fairly new, it should give it a decent clean.