Nikon D90!!

[arthurking83]

.. is due for replacement.

bets are being taken for the name of it's successor

naming possibilities include:

D90s
D90x
D90.2
D90(a).. (where a = any other alphanumerical prefix)
D9b ... (where b = any positive integer, such as 1, 2, etc.. eg, D91, D92.. etc)
D100!! ..(LOL!)

realistically apart from the s and x prefix, they have nowhere else to go! :lol:

NOTE: with Nikon's previous history of body replacement every two years, and the fact that the D90 was announced in Aug 2008.. I'm only speculating that it's due for an imminent update.
Considering that the D300s is still active in the line up, a new sensor is 99.9% guaranteed NOT to be a feature, so the odds on the D90s name are something like 0.50c .. all other names are paying more like $1,000,000 ... just be sure to send me your money in small denominations, non successive serial numbers, and neatly bundled into brown paper bags! :lol2:

BTW! I think the odds on a Collingwood flag for '10 have dramatically shortened in the past 24hours! :D

[Lani]

I have heard a whisper of a D95. :confused013

[old dog]

D99 and we can change hands when we feel like it......:th3:

[Xebadir]

Im gonna go for The Beverley solution.
Nikon D91210

:p

But seriously, will be interesting to see what they go with to work around the numbers.

[ricktas]

Easy

iD90 or D90 iSnack ?

[joele]

D95 and I think it will have a new sensor..

[arthurking83]

Easy

iD90 or D90 iSnack ?

:lol:



hey! never thought about that possibility of Nikon cashing in on the 'i' rage ...

i90
iCamera
iNikon

:p

[swifty]

The D90 (and its replacement) is probably more important to Nikon economically than any other DSLR model. My bet is that if its not an 's' upgrade which I don't think it would be, the new specs would essentially eclipse most of that of D300s', including sensor. I don't think Nikon have been shy about cannabalizing its own models. And I think D400 will be replaced in 6-12months anyways which would restore the pecking order in DX.
So I reckon D95 or Dx000 where x is a highish number, maybe 7??
If its just an 's' upgrade then then the real replacement might be replaced with D300s.

[peterb666]

D90A, D90N, or D90X.

[mcdesign]

Wondered why the D90 had got cheaper of late, $939 at D-D-Photographics!

[arthurking83]

Just a feeling I have:

I can't ever see Nikon in a position where a lower specced model will surpass a higher specced model for 'currently' available bodies.

That is, any D90 to be better specced than a D300 ever would be whilst on the current model list.

I can tho, imagine a D90 sized Fx camera.. kind of like the old EM series camera.

down specced to stay below a specific price threshold, but uber elite in some other manner... fullframe sized sensor(for shallower DOF0, low light, high ISO performance.. etc)

Like the D700 is to the D300, with a lower price premium tho.

What would they call it tho??
May not happen in the D90's lifetime, but as full frame sensors get cheaper, this type of model line up is surely inevitable!

[Xebadir]

Don't think theyd go with that mate, wouldnt make sense from a technical standpoint, as the market share is currently geared to the APS-C type sensor for this type of camera. I also figure at the current stage that the FF sensor must be costing them more, and that they are likely to gradually introduce it down...or perhaps will just run a 3 FF series and 3 crop series cameras (IE something like a D3, D700 and equiv of a D90 in FF, D300, D5000, D3000, on APS-C, but I can't see them doing that yet). I reckon what they might do is continue on with the D700 sensor once they upgrade that model, and introduce a new camera which runs the old D700 as the mid-range FF variant. Put it in a D90 body or equiv and it would be great ;). But I think I am just trying to second guess a little too much. But if they planned to release a lower cost FF model, I reckon they might first also spec up the D3 series to the D4 to ensure you get a step down through the models.

Will be interesting to see what happens anyway.

[peterb666]

Just a feeling I have:

I can't ever see Nikon in a position where a lower specced model will surpass a higher specced model for 'currently' available bodies.

That is, any D90 to be better specced than a D300 ever would be whilst on the current model list.

One of the first rumours out, about a year ago, was that the D90 and D300s will be replaced by a single model. If you look at what has been happening, each new lower end camera is essentially 95% of the next model higher up the pecking order.

When the D90 came out, it was 95% D300 in D80 clothing.

When the D5000 came out, it was 95% D90 (with some features the D90 didn't have like the folding LCD) in a body similar to the D60.

When the D3000 came out, it was 95% of the D5000 (just throw out the rotating LCD and live view and there you are) so essentially a D60 in D5000 clothing.

The D90 replacement will be a D300s with a little less processing power and with a rotating high res LCD. There may be a new sensor in there with a few more mp to better compete with Canon's current crop (but I hope not as I would prefer lower noise levels).

Where is the D300s going to go unless it becomes full-frame or gets dropped? A D700 lite seems to be on the cards if it does stay in the lineup. Either that or the D90 doesn't get replaced at all.

[peterb666]

Wondered why the D90 had got cheaper of late, $939 at D-D-Photographics!

Getting very tempting. That's around $200 less than the rebated amount non-grey import.

[Xebadir]

Go through DDE (DDP parent) and they are asking just 737 for it! Definitely looks like a clear the decks accross the board move.

[swifty]

Hey Arthur, by better specced I mostly meant the 'bling factor' specs that appeal to the mass market. So things like sensor megapixel, iso range, particularly video specs, LCD etc.
The photocentric specs that appeal to more experienced photographers will continue to favour the D300s like build/weather proof quality, vf, metering/compatibility with older lens etc.
I reckon it might even get the D300's AF module unless it's very easy to produce a slightly simplified version of it cos too complicated an AF module might not be a good thing on a D90 class camera. The D400 or watever it'll be called will probably get a new D4 class AF when that appears, perhaps next August.

[swifty]

Peter: depending on how high they push the D90 replacement, the D400 may become a pro DX solution with an intergrated grip like a D2 series body. So in DX u might have a situation mirroring the D3/D700 relationship.
I also think a lite FX solution is due but I don't know if it'll necessarily be low end. If they stripped it of all the bells and whistles and made it small and light but maintained good rugged build (digital FM type concept), it still would command a premium I reckon. I don't see Nikon doing a consumer FX (FX sensor in consumer style body) for the current market IMO.

[TEITZY]

As one of Nikons most loyal subjects I think they should name it after you Arthur.

The 'Nikon AK-90 - Will shoot anything' :D

Cheers
Leigh

[Lance B]

How about "D-Lightful"? :lol:

[sid]

Getting very tempting. That's around $200 less than the rebated amount non-grey import.

Too bad I had to buy one in March at around 1700 AUD(with 18-105). Today, I could have got a tripod and camera bag as well for that money. Only consolation I have is that a bird in hand is worth.....:angry0:

[peterb666]

digital FM type concept

Yes please. With a similar size and weight too. I would quite like some retro styling to go along with it as well. The FM was the best camera I ever had and was my trusted friend for almost 30 years. Now a digital camera that will last and not become obsolete in 30 years :th3:

[cupic]

D9,and then downwards till you reach D1(If Nikon uses this template I bags it) LOL


cheers

[Norman]

:Doh: Personal opinion

I reckon this whole speculation and replacement theory is internet madness

It has overtaken sites such as DP Review with lunatic threads and flame wars

Whatever happened to taking Photographs and sharing them discussing them etc?

Maybe they WON'T replace the camera !

[rellik666]

Maybe the next step is a chip in your head....no more cameras! Just very expensive glasses! :D

Roo

[Xebadir]

But Roo, can you imagine the software glitches! Imagina all the people trying to trade theirs in :lol:

[landteacher]

My 2 bobs worth. The replacement for the D90 will/can only be cosmetic.(D90s, D90u (u- ultiment) ). Why change something that, on paper, is better than its big brother, weight, ergonomics and sensor rankings. http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Sensor-rankings This little thing has a better dynamic range than all but the big guns in the game, and they are all FF. It ranks 17th just below names and models like, Phase One P65 Plus 1, 1st. Nikon D3x, 2nd. Nikon D700, 3rd. Canon 1Ds Mk 111, 7th. Sony Alpha 900, 10th. Hasselblad H3D1150, 11th. Nikon D90, 17th. Nikon D300s, 22nd. Then add to this, today $750.00 body only. What would you change, and why? Love mine, and apart from my brother in-laws D700, I can say it's one of the best & easiest to use cameras I have come across.

Mick.G.

[kiwi]

Im thinking of getting a D90 as a backup/P&S type SLR, I hope it continues to drift southwards in price

[Kym]

Nikon have the same issue as Canon (where does the successor to the 50D fit between the 550D and the 7D?)

In Nikon land its the narrowing gap between the D5000 and the D300s.

Bottom line the entry level features are on the up and the top end APS-C (dx) sensor is suffering diminished returns on features.

Why tool up for a mid range unit in a tight market? Who needs 3 levels in this market anyway?

[I @ M]

Who needs 3 levels in this market anyway?

Pentax maybe? (http://www.pentax.com.au/pentax/index.php?q=node/7) :p :D

[joele]

Pentax maybe? (http://www.pentax.com.au/pentax/index.php?q=node/7) :p :D

Didn't the Kx replace the Km and the K7 replace the K20d? Though there are rumours of a K5 to sit in between.. :confused013

[peterb666]

Didn't the Kx replace the Km and the K7 replace the K20d? Though there are rumours of a K5 to sit in between.. :confused013

The Kx is probably one of the best value for money low-end dSLRs made (if not the best). The others have been nothing spectacular so let's hope the K9 isn't a dog :lol:

[joele]

Actually I wasn't impressed with the Kx, I hated the fact you couldn't select the focus point manually, either the camera decides for you or you use centre point and focus-recompose every shot..

[arthurking83]

Maybe the next step is a chip in your head....no more cameras! Just very expensive glasses! :D

Roo

Nah!.. I already have too many chips(dents/stitches/scars/hair :p) in my head apparently.... too many m/bike accidents!

What I really want, is:

D3s silicon implants for the retina, removable/interchangeable zoom lenses for the cornea bit, much better focusing screens than those dumbo gods gave us..(or is it just me?) ... Oh! and GPS connectivity(I have a plethora of GPSes not being fully utilised).

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Dn0 range totally dropped by Nikon.

They royally stuffed up the naming convention with the three camera range way back when.. Dn(Full pro) Dn00(semi pro) and Dn0.

The naming of the Dn0 range should have been switched with the Dn00 instead... makes more sense from a marketing(consumer understanding) point of view.

[rellik666]

Whats the Dn000 range then?

[ving]

d90nonwobblevideo.... :/

nfi!

[maccaroneski]

Whats the Dn000 range then?

D3000 / 5000.

No votes for a D9000 yet?

[rellik666]

Yeah but what is it....basic range??

All the bells and whistles but plasticy body?

Video and Mega pixels but not much else....

Bridge the Bridge with the 5000? Or am I off track here....

D9000.....hum sounds like a terminator...

Roo

[dieselpower]

I saw this on Digital Camera Warehouse's twitter feed this morning:



dcwarehouse: Product launch today, and we've been invited and will be tweeting live! Stay tuned here from 6pm for the latest on a brand new product.

dcwarehouse: It is embargoed - brand and product not know at this stage! Spooky :D.


Hmmm, could it be from Nikon?

[joele]

I saw this on Digital Camera Warehouse's twitter feed this morning:

...

Hmmm, could it be from Nikon?

wasn't so exciting in the end ;)

"LX5, FX-700, FZ-100, FT10 and the brand new 3D capable camcorder all here tonight!"

[arthurking83]

traditionally Nikon's official announcements seem to happen on or about the 20-30th of a given month.

Hopefully a few more lenses as well.

note: just had a peek at Nikon's Dn0 series release/announce dates.

D70s - Apr2005, D80 - Aug 2006, D90 - Aug 2008.

FWIW: D300 - Aug(23)2007, D300s - Jul(31)2009

ooh! and what I'm eagerly waiting on :p D700 - Jul 2008, D700s - LATE!!!! :D

I think two new (SLR)camera bodies are about to appear ;) ... and of course some new lenses.

[ving]

something is definitely happening very soon. i have seen d90 bodies for as low as $770 (plus postage).

pretty exciting.

[reaction]

those would be grey right?

and I'm sure you know, wobble video is not a design issue, it is a property of CMOS sensors.

[Kym]

D7000 ... http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/08/23/nikon.d7000.may.launch.pre.photokina/


Nikon's often rumored D90 replacement now has a name and possible extra features through leaks. After brief rumors that it would be called the D8000, Nikon Rumors now has it pegged as the D7000. The name is treated as certain and comes from the same outlet that accurately caught the D3100's name weeks in advance.

A more tentative but significant slip hints that the D7000 may follow the D3100 in bringing features previously only ever seen in a higher-end Nikon model. The optical viewfinder may get the 100 percent coverage previously only seen in the D300 and above. Similarly, it could get dual card slots like the D300, although it's uncertain if Nikon would return to including a Compact Flash card. Size and cost might dictate a second SD slot if true.

[ving]

nikon rumours have been calling it the d95, tho they have now removed the d95 link on the right sidebar...

the P9000 is going to be a new P&S camera. I dont think they'll call the d90 replacement D9000. :confused013

:umm:

[campo]

it'll be interesting to see the new name(s) of coming cameras as their numbering system is a really a bit of a mess at the moment...

[Xebadir]

Im starting to get the feeling that Nikon have been playing possum in terms of camera bodies while working on their new sensors. D95 or whatever coming out in September and following the D3100...D4 looking at april next year, talk of a D700 upgrade/replacement before the end of the year (which funnily enough makes sense....upgrading the second in line cameras first before the barnstorm of the blitzkrieg in a D4 and D300s replacement at the top of the respective sensors, and a D300s replacement by August next year....probably a D5000 upgrade in there somewhere and Nikon have a whole new lineup before Canon can blink.

The question is...what the hell are they going to do with the D300s replacement when they look like giving the D95:
* Magnesium-alloy body
* 16MP sensor
* 1080 HD video
* Somewhere between 6-8 fps
* Improved ISO range: 100-25600*
* 39 AF points
* Price: $1199 for body only

This puts a big standard out there for the D400...we could feasibly see something big coming with this. Im guessing similar performance to a D3 with increased sensor pixels to blow the D95 away or D4 stepped down a little. Either way Nikon might have something novel...I wonder if its along the lines of the jump from D2 and D200 series to the D3/D300.

As for the D800 or whatever its called where does it go? D3 sensor quality with increased resolution and video?

Certainly could be interesting.

[Xebadir]

Note the reasons I say about the D400, look at the release of the D300s, i think it shows a change in nikons thoughts in term of pro type bodies...double card slots...with a few other changes (FPS up) could be a serious pro camera.

According to Nikon rumors the D90 replacement has a designation:
Nikon D7000 will be the replacement of the D90...supposedly this is confirmed. And apparently it might have double slots.

This raises interesting questions towards the D5000...perhaps going to be a dead end and dropped from the lineup in favour of a 3/3 lineup? Probably likely given the D3100 loadout.

[Burnouts]

Im starting to get the feeling that Nikon have been playing possum in terms of camera bodies while working on their new sensors. D95 or whatever coming out in September and following the D3100...D4 looking at april next year, talk of a D700 upgrade/replacement before the end of the year (which funnily enough makes sense....upgrading the second in line cameras first before the barnstorm of the blitzkrieg in a D4 and D300s replacement at the top of the respective sensors, and a D300s replacement by August next year....probably a D5000 upgrade in there somewhere and Nikon have a whole new lineup before Canon can blink.

The question is...what the hell are they going to do with the D300s replacement when they look like giving the D95:
* Magnesium-alloy body
* 16MP sensor
* 1080 HD video
* Somewhere between 6-8 fps
* Improved ISO range: 100-25600*
* 39 AF points
* Price: $1199 for body only

This puts a big standard out there for the D400...we could feasibly see something big coming with this. Im guessing similar performance to a D3 with increased sensor pixels to blow the D95 away or D4 stepped down a little. Either way Nikon might have something novel...I wonder if its along the lines of the jump from D2 and D200 series to the D3/D300.

As for the D800 or whatever its called where does it go? D3 sensor quality with increased resolution and video?

Certainly could be interesting.

Half the reason I've put off ordering my D300s, the day I get it they will announce an upgrade.. :Doh:

[Xebadir]

Heh, Understand there, though it looks pretty safe for at least a year (though it will be interesting to see how the new D7000 measures up to the old D300s) I have put on hold picking up a D700 for the moment. Planning to spend the money on flash setup and a macro and just waiting for the new release....if it comes prices will fall...and I might even decide to go for the new kid on the block if its worth it.

[sid]

D700 was my wet dream for a while....But I decided to get a D90 for now, and learn photography, while I let Nikon work on an upgrade. When Nikon brings it out, I should be ready ;)

[stoogest]

I name thee Kevin.

That is all.