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NickMonk

19-03-2009, 7:48am

See it here on Strobist:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/03/plug-into-mcnallys-brain-with-hot-shoe.html

I just ordered it, sounds like a cracker, particularly if you have Nikon. He is the king of strobism with small flash if you don't know him.

old dog

19-03-2009, 8:14am

I think I`ll be getting one as well. Need to learn more and this book looks like a winner.

ehor

19-03-2009, 11:15am

$38 delivered from BigW online.
Use the code HOMEENT09 for free delivery :th3:

N*A*M

19-03-2009, 4:11pm

3 cheers for ehor!

order placed... now we wait

saratoga

19-03-2009, 4:45pm

hmmm...I can't find it there!

Jcas

19-03-2009, 6:03pm

hmmm...I can't find it there!

Once you get onto the bigwentertainment.com.au site, go to books, then to photography.
You should see it there, if not type the authors name into search and up it comes.:)

Lani

19-03-2009, 8:09pm

Thanks Nick for the heads up, just ordered one too.
Thanks for the promo code Ehor. :th3:

Just realised why you made the comment "now we wait" NAM, 14-20 days before despatch!

kaiser

19-03-2009, 8:45pm

NickMonk

19-03-2009, 8:46pm

$38 delivered from BigW online.
Use the code HOMEENT09 for free delivery :th3:

OH CRAP! I paid $57 to have it delivered by Amazon from the States. I didn't for one moment think that it might actually be available in Australia as they usually aren't. CRAP! :angry0:

Jcas

19-03-2009, 9:10pm

OH CRAP! I paid $57 to have it delivered by Amazon from the States. I didn't for one moment think that it might actually be available in Australia as they usually aren't. CRAP

Oh No!!! Nick i didn't see the bigW link either until after i ordered, but mine was only 41.00 delivered via Fishpond books in Aussie.

N*A*M

20-03-2009, 12:39pm

So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

they both trace back to the same ISBN-13 so hopefully we're going to be getting the right book

there seem to be a two variations on the subtitle: Creative Applications of Small Flashes vs Big Light from Small Flashes

ehor

20-03-2009, 1:00pm

So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

I'm not sure but I'll be mad if we get ripped off a chapter or two.
Let's just hope they are using a smaller font or bigger pages.... or it was a typo.

Here's the direct link to BigW guys:
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/product/hot_shoe_diaries_creative_applications_of_small_flashes_2958093_679477.html

I can't wait to get it even though I'm a Canon shooter :D

kaiser

20-03-2009, 1:19pm

Yeah hopefully :) The one that lani mentioned at fishpond.com.au is the 320pg version for $41 delivered.

ehor

20-03-2009, 1:21pm

Oh well I've send off an email to Joe asking about it. Wonder if I'll get a reply :p

old dog

20-03-2009, 2:29pm

I`ve got mine ordered.....woohoo. Might learn how to use my flash now.

N*A*M

20-03-2009, 3:30pm

i just read through the 32 page sample copy and now i'm dying to get the book! i love his writing style, and the sb900 stuffed in the chicken carcass haha!

umajo

20-03-2009, 5:38pm

i have irdered mine too:th3:

djaef

22-03-2009, 10:53am

And how cool is the shot of "The birth of a speedlite", shot on tungsten in daylight. Hopefully the wait will not be too long. I ordered mine from bookware.com.au for $38 as well.

Shelley

22-03-2009, 8:12pm

So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

Lets hope the imported one has a total page count and the aussie one just the pages number 1-272 and have not included the count for title page, indexes and other misc. stuff. That is what i am counting on.

Should be a good read...

Shelley

23-03-2009, 1:44pm

Just discovered the Joe McNally books, there seem to be two. The cheaper one is a slightly different title and from visual images on-line - seems smaller.

I found both on line - the other one was $72 and the one i ordered is $37 - still think it will be very useful.

kiwi

25-03-2009, 10:22am

Ordered too - thanks !!

Jcas

26-03-2009, 10:16am

Just got an email from Fishpond saying mine should be here on Tues or Wednesday ... yay:)

deadgoose

27-03-2009, 1:50pm

I have it on backorder from Dymocks at 39.95 + 5 bucks post. They said it could take a while but I'm in no hurry. Brolly, stand and flash clamp on their way. Looking forward to learning some new stuff.

jschokman

30-03-2009, 11:44pm

Hi guys,

got my copy a few weeks ago. ordered on the monday from amazon UK and received it that thursday, awesome.

It's a great read, lots of tech detail in this one. Lots of gear plugs , he loves the sb900 but still has uses for the sb800, considering the 900 doesnät fit in a whole bunch of coldshoes. My 900 wonät fit in my justin clamp, metal short brolly swivels from midwest, etc. basically it'll only go on the camera or in the plastic foot.

He uses the su800 commander unit all the time with an SC cord to allow him to hold it at different angles to reach all the flashes. All of that will be unnecessary once the new nikon pocket wizards come out but until then, line of sight is still required, especially at the distances he places the SB's from the camera.

Jcas

01-04-2009, 2:16pm

Got mine today, fantastic read by the looks of it.... :):)

kaiser

01-04-2009, 3:37pm

Got mine today, fantastic read by the looks of it.... :):)

Damm....I ordered from Fishpond the same day as you and they told me they won't even expect it to reach them until April 11....what the?

Jcas

01-04-2009, 3:52pm

Damm....I ordered from Fishpond the same day as you and they told me they won't even expect it to reach them until April 11....what the?

Does seem strange, i been dealing with Fishpond for years and find them excellent, not sure what gives ... :confused013

hyperactive

05-04-2009, 9:59pm

So can someone confirm the difference between the 272 page and 320 page editions?

Apparently there are 3, not 2. A 272 page, a 303 page, and 320 page one. I wanna know if there are any differences between them before taking the plunge.

NickMonk

11-04-2009, 12:19am

Mine is the 303 pager (Amazon) but don't know what the difference is.

All I can say is I am a little sick of the terms "puppys"

Jcas

11-04-2009, 7:23am

Mine is 303 too from Fishpond, i emailed Fishpond asking them about the different versions and their reply was that they are not aware of different versions, so who knows????

hyperactive

12-04-2009, 3:19am

has anybody on the forum got the 272 page australian version? ...at least we'd have 2 to compare...

kaiser

12-04-2009, 7:24am

Maybe the 272 pg version was a typo?? I emailed Penguin Publishing directly and they confirmed that the Australian version they are distributing is 303 pages.

ShaneB

12-04-2009, 9:38am

Maybe the 272 pg version was a typo?? I emailed Penguin Publishing directly and they confirmed that the Australian version they are distributing is 303 pages.

It's a bit weird. The copy I got, published by "New Riders" comprises:

pages i to xiv = 14 pages
2 pages apparently without numbers
pages 1 - 256
= 272 pages

Whatever the pages, I'm very impressed with the nook.

Oh, and as to a "new" book: it's marked as published January 2008.

Happy Easter.

umajo

12-04-2009, 10:20am

still waiting hey are out of stock

hyperactive

13-04-2009, 1:25pm

so nobodys got the penguin one?

Is the title different? The 272 is something like "creative applications for small flashes" and from the quick summary its aimed at ameteurs/enthusiasts where as the "big light from small flashes" is more aimed at pros?

...I might be very wrong though...

Lani

23-04-2009, 10:00am

Anybody else order from BigWentertainment I keep getting emails to say they can't get stock?....even thought hey supposedly had stock when I ordered it ages ago. :confused013

kiwi

23-04-2009, 10:06am

Ditto Lani :confused013

Lani

23-04-2009, 10:10am

I guess I'll keep waiting, may as well now after this long. This isn't a problem isolated to them, I ordered a kelby book through seekbooks, and rang to confirm they had it in stock before I ordered...yet, once again...emails kept being sent pushing back the delivery date. Bit between a rock and a hard place cos none of our local booksellers stock the titles i am after, and they take 6 weeks to order them in. :rolleyes:

ricktas

23-04-2009, 10:52am

Lani. Give Fullers a try. I know the owner, and both himself and his staff are really goods, they at least are willing to give you accurate information about availability etc.

umajo

23-04-2009, 11:46am

i am in the same boat have email to say

Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, there has been a
slight delay from the supplier of HOT SHOE DIARIES: CREATIVE
APPLICATIONS OF SMALL FLASHES. We are now expecting the book To come
into us within the next week to two weeks.

they have already took it off my credit vard last month:cool: so who is fullers rick and do they have a website

Jcas

23-04-2009, 2:32pm

I got the Kelby photoshop book and the Hot Shoe Diaries from Fishpond within a couple of weeks from date of order.
I know it isn't the right thing to do, but i never use the local shops,I simply can't afford to. i find they are at least $10-20 per book, sometimes more than the online shops.

kingwheatie

23-04-2009, 3:28pm

Anybody else order from BigWentertainment I keep getting emails to say they can't get stock?....even thought hey supposedly had stock when I ordered it ages ago. :confused013

I ordered one through Bigw at the same time this thread started, got one email to say they were waiting on stock. Book was delivered on Monday(20-4-09).... must of only got a small shipment in:confused013 dont know whats going on??????

umajo

23-04-2009, 4:13pm

lucky you i got my email today to say another 2 weeks and i also ordered mine when this thread first started also:confused013

umajo

24-04-2009, 6:11am

another email from big w today i am cancelling and will try to get it elsewhere email states

The arrival of this item from our suppliers has been further delayed. We are working continuously with our suppliers to ensure delivery is received ASAP and your order completed.

so sounds like they no longer know when they will get it now :confused013

kingwheatie

24-04-2009, 11:27am

ehor

27-04-2009, 11:56am

Got an email this morning from Big W saying it's been dispatched. Wohoo! :)

old dog

27-04-2009, 12:11pm

I also ordered long ago when the thread started. Another email from big W, saying the book is delayed again. Have cancelled order. Anyone steer me onto a better source?

kiwi

27-04-2009, 12:35pm

I got an email today saying dispatched from Big W too, so, maybe wait another day or so ?

umajo

27-04-2009, 12:41pm

i cancelled mine and went to www.play4me.com.au ordered friday email today to say its been dispatched

Lani

27-04-2009, 12:59pm

I got an email today saying dispatched from Big W too, so, maybe wait another day or so ?

Same here.

N*A*M

28-04-2009, 9:43am

my bigw order came yesterday

303 pages

ehor

01-05-2009, 10:18am

Got my book today from BigW also.

kiwi

01-05-2009, 10:20am

...and mine arrived too :)

jamalnic

01-05-2009, 10:49am

I ordered mine Wednesday and had an email yesterday to say it had been dispatched. :)

MATT

08-05-2009, 7:31am

I got mine, but I will never buy from BigW online again..

hyperactive

08-05-2009, 11:46pm

...and all the BigW ones are 303 pgs?

kiwi

10-05-2009, 8:39pm

Care to share your results from reading the book ?

Camera -EV, flash +EV, on camera bounced

http://www.peakactionimages.com/gallery/main.php/d/99786-1/APL_4159.jpg

Lani

10-05-2009, 8:44pm

Sheez, you're into it already Darren. :D I've only had a chance to flick through it so far.

Nice result though, I'm assuming it's straight from camera? The skin tones are great.

kiwi

10-05-2009, 8:51pm

MATT

11-05-2009, 12:30pm

Not exactly, ran through LR and a small tweak

I liked the first chapter about his default settings re rear curtain sync, always on A and always Matrix and using diff combos of + and -EV on camera and flash, so, had a quick play with a few settings

I've just started reading it and found that his setting were interesting.. But yet to try it out.

Just need 3 more SB800's and I'll be set.

MATT

N*A*M

11-05-2009, 3:33pm

Shelley

11-05-2009, 9:41pm

my book looks beat up and tattered already - because i've been taking it with me everywhere. turns out i set my camera up quite similarly to him. the book really inspires you to try stuff out. i wish i had a bajillion speedlights and a model like risa!

Yeah well what you do is buy a roll of good contact - not the cheap sticky stuff that attaches itself to everything else, but the book. :) I reinforce the spine and cover page edges with strips of contact before covering. I have purchased a few bird and photography books of late (including the Joe McNally book). I noticed that these books are not put together well and will deteriorate with use. I keep telling my brother to give me his bird book, so I can repair it, can ya hear me brother....- but he can't part with it....Working in a library has its perks, you know....

Jules

18-05-2009, 9:37pm

My copy arrived today. Only took a week (from Big W online), so wasn't too bad compared to some other people's experiences. Only had a brief flick through so far, but it looks pretty good.

One thing that caught my eye was the setup sketch on page 273. Notice how the author refers to himself? As...

...wait for it...

...Mongo! He even uses third-person speak!! The exact words are "Mongo shoot fasion. Mongo like". That's the Mongo we all know and love!

Now we know who Mongo really is - it's Joe McNally! :D