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Liney
18-03-2018, 10:47am
I just wanted to have a quick show of hands here, who else has a box/jar/tin around the garage/shed/house which contains loose screws, nuts, bolts and other fasteners?

Growing up it was an accepted thing that any fasteners that were removed from things you were getting rid of went into a tin that lived under the stairs. If my dad was doing any DIY around the place he would go the tin and see if there was something he could use, I hate to think how many times the contents were tipped over an old newspaper and I ended up raking though looking for four screws the same length and head type.

When we cleared out Granny's house when she died we found around 20 small cardboard boxes containing wood screws, which had belonged to Grandad. When my Dad died as the eldest and only male I inherited the tin. Last time I looked in my garage there was a couple of boxes full of left over fasteners.

Admittedly both Grandad and Dad had lived though the tough times of the last century when even the litlte things cost money and were difficulyto come by, and they had an in-grained habit of being frugal and re-using what they could. I don't seem to have that excuse (not with current prices and availability) but I still hate to see good things thrown away if they still work. Only last night I had to connect an electronic doodad to an electronic thingumy, and not only did I have the cables I needed but in the big box of electric string in the garage I would appear to have spares......

Is it just me?:scrtch:

ameerat42
18-03-2018, 11:16am
:action66: x about 6 or seven such tins, ditto for nails (which I hardly ever use), and a score of
packets of modern timber/metal/concrete screws/fasteners. Add to that assorted brackets, offcuts
of timber/metal, a comprehensive array of handy-person tools/equipment, and...

I "sort of collected" the older stuff from hand-me-downs/overs, garage sales..., and the newer stuff
from hardware stores.

(Does any of this sound familiar? :D)

I hate waste, and that includes the idea that you can just jump in the car and go get something...
(Time and resources, etc.) The only thing is that I have to keep a balance against "hoarding".
I have been joshingly accused of the latter, only to have it set aside when I have been able to help
someone from my "hoard". Occasionally, sorted stuff gets put out for kerbside collection, where, I am
pleased to relate, it is often picked up if it's useful stuff, or if absolutely decrepid (obsol spelling), it
finally goes.

The only thing that gets really short shrift is flathead screws, and other useless metal. That usually goes
to KS collection.

--I'm glad it's not "just me":D

Geoff Port
18-03-2018, 11:32am
I just wanted to have a quick show of hands here, who else has a box/jar/tin around the garage/shed/house which contains loose screws, nuts, bolts and other fasteners?

Growing up it was an accepted thing that any fasteners that were removed from things you were getting rid of went into a tin that lived under the stairs. If my dad was doing any DIY around the place he would go the tin and see if there was something he could use, I hate to think how many times the contents were tipped over an old newspaper and I ended up raking though looking for four screws the same length and head type.

When we cleared out Granny's house when she died we found around 20 small cardboard boxes containing wood screws, which had belonged to Grandad. When my Dad died as the eldest and only male I inherited the tin. Last time I looked in my garage there was a couple of boxes full of left over fasteners.

Admittedly both Grandad and Dad had lived though the tough times of the last century when even the litlte things cost money and were difficulyto come by, and they had an in-grained habit of being frugal and re-using what they could. I don't seem to have that excuse (not with current prices and availability) but I still hate to see good things thrown away if they still work. Only last night I had to connect an electronic doodad to an electronic thingumy, and not only did I have the cables I needed but in the big box of electric string in the garage I would appear to have spares......

Is it just me?:scrtch:

My dad taught me by deed not to throw screws, bolts, nuts, washers etc out. I have and regularly go to several containers full of used and left over/salvaged hardware such as this. With the price of “good quality” items such as this continually on the rise these treasure tins are an essential in any shed. As for electrical stuff, this home has 3 draws and a hat box FULL of cables, chargers, headphones etc. One never know when they might be needed.[emoji4][emoji4]


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Ross M
18-03-2018, 4:34pm
My parents were born into the so called Great Depression. They also experienced rationing during World War 2 before gradual post-war recovery. Their lives were moulded by the need to be frugal and very little was thrown away. The ingenuity and resourcefulness that developed out of this was amazing.

On top of this history, my father was a fitter and machinist. He had a massive collection of metal bits and parts for use as raw materials crammed into every nook and cranny of his shed. He possessed very few power tools. One of the few power tools he had was a drill and he devised clamps and jigs to use the drill and vise as a primitive lathe. He used his skills constantly. If he needed a simple tool, he would make it. I think his attitude was summed up in a conversation we had when I was very young and said I might like to be a mechanic. "Ah yes", he said. "A mechanic is a good job, but it's easy. A real tradesman doesn't just replace parts - he repairs the old ones and puts them back." A bit harsh, but it was the way he looked at things.

Frugal re-use has rubbed off on me and I have to make an effort to stop myself hoarding.

Tannin
18-03-2018, 5:17pm
On a point of order, Mr Chairman, by definition if they are in a jar or box they are not loose.

I must have spent countless hours and several thousand dollars over the years buying containers and building shelves and constructing sheds, all to contain loose screws and a variety of other objects which just might come in handy one day. Over the journey, I estimate that this has saved me at least $120.

On the other hand, think of the benefits. Now whenever I want something I can spend a happy half-hour searching through the sheds for one the right size, then take a nice little break from the tedium of life at home by driving down to the shops and buying some new ones, then some intellectually challenging and quite often rewarding time trying to remember what on earth I wanted them for in the first place, a good five minutes screwing them in, and finally another ten minutes trying to figure out a good place to file the leftover ones, not to mention the three other things I bought while I was at the shop just in case. All of this safe in the knowledge that, next time I'm looking for a centre punch or some five-minute epoxy, the missing 25mm screws will turn up.

Glenda
18-03-2018, 5:36pm
Not a one :D. But I'm sure my husband has in that building I rarely venture into. My parents also went through the depression and WWII and rarely threw anything out on the off chance it might be useful some day. After Dad passed away and later Mum had to go into a nursing home my brother and I filled a skip with things they had kept, just in case.

On the female side I still have a large bottle full of buttons - originally from my Grandmother who did a lot of sewing, then added to by Mum who did very little. I can remember both of them removing buttons from garments they were throwing out. And, yes I have actually used some to replace the odd button lost over the years.

John King
18-03-2018, 6:43pm
I've got a garage full of that stuff. Must have saved a few bucks over the years.

However, some spare parts cannot be acquired. Parts for older computers are one such category of things. The option is often to scrap a whole computer because a suitable video card (and drivers) cannot be sourced.

Like some others, I have an abhorrence of the utter wastefulness of our modern society.

Liney
18-03-2018, 7:38pm
Well its not just me then, I am so glad.

I have to admit that I have to skip a lot of stuff every time I move house because whenever I do some DIY around the house I tend to have bits and pieces left over which I keep "in case they come in handy". Most times I have found uses for things and that's half the fun (improvise, overcome, adapt....).

Several houses ago the local dump let you drive in and offload into a couple of skips, with certain areas for specific types of stuff. I was banned from going on my own by the memsahib because I would allegedly "would came back with more than I took".

Saying that on one occasion she was very happy with my "habit". Back in the UK they used to have a bonfire down the road for November the 5th, and one morning I was walking past the bonfire preparation when I noticed a vintage internal door. As we were renovating a house at the time and needed to replace one of the internal doors it was too good a chance to pass up. Went for a paper, came back with a four panel pitch pine door...

mudman
18-03-2018, 9:30pm
people have been saying for years that i have a screw loose

jim
19-03-2018, 12:25am
I spent 24 years gathering thousands of the things, all loosely organised into various boxes. Had to throw them all out when we left the country.

ameerat42
19-03-2018, 7:56am
GARAGE SALE - THIS SATURDAY

-Loose screws in jars and assorted abovementioned bric-a-brac

BARGAINS TO BE HAD for the discerning junk-collector:p:p

Geoff Port
19-03-2018, 1:27pm
GARAGE SALE - THIS SATURDAY

-Loose screws in jars and assorted abovementioned bric-a-brac

BARGAINS TO BE HAD for the discerning junk-collector:p:p

What’s the address? I’ll be there. Need some more loose screws. Any bent nails in the inventory?[emoji13][emoji13][emoji13]


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ameerat42
19-03-2018, 1:39pm
...Any bent nails in the inventory?[emoji13][emoji13][emoji13]...

I had half a paint tin full, but they went to the scrap metal 2 loads ago:(

Geoff Port
19-03-2018, 4:43pm
I had half a paint tin full, but they went to the scrap metal 2 loads ago:(

Darn it. Nothing like the satisfaction one gets from spending all day straightening nails knowing that you have saved $2:50


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ameerat42
19-03-2018, 5:55pm
Darn it. Nothing like the satisfaction one gets from spending all day straightening nails knowing that you have saved $2:50...

--:D--

Next time I de-nail some planks I'll save the nails for ya.
--Send them to ya by e-nail :nod:

Mark L
20-03-2018, 8:29pm
Several houses ago the local dump let you drive in and offload into a couple of skips, with certain areas for specific types of stuff. I was banned from going on my own by the memsahib because I would allegedly "would came back with more than I took".
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Yes, this was my farther in law's habit. Got to get rid of stuff at the tip, got to get collect potentially useful stuff on the visit two the tip. He'd come back withe twice as much stuff he took o the tip.
And in the end he'd never use that stuff.
Are you all ever going to use that stuff you have?

jim
20-03-2018, 11:00pm
Oh, God yes.Down the dump on a Saturday, every couple of weeks. Spend an hour or so picking things over, an informal sort of recycling. Mum thought it was disgusting...

Liney
21-03-2018, 9:07pm
Are you all ever going to use that stuff you have?

Probably not, but I can guarantee that as soon as I throw something out the following week I will find a need for it.....

richtbw
21-03-2018, 9:33pm
I thought I was the only one that do not throw away things that may become useful tomorrow, what a relief. The joy of realising that you have something somewhere that can be used to make/fix something.

arthurking83
23-03-2018, 12:43pm
.... who else has a box/jar/tin around the garage/shed/house which contains loose screws, nuts, bolts and other fasteners?

....

LOL! I used to buy Goulburn Valley preserved fruits(usually peaches, or two fruits), JUST for the container design to store screws.
Used to binge on the stuff(even tho I don't particularly like it) just to amass those plastic containers.

As for screws themselves, if they aren't posidrive, I chuck 'em.
Can't stand slotted screw heads and they get replaced just because I hate the idea that they're there!
I have a little less disdain for philips and hex heads
Torx or posidrive are my preferred head types. So anything less than that, is chucked and replaced by non rusted, and useful drive types that don't wear out on initial use!

I have about 20 or 30 containers(mainly those Goulburn Valley types) and the other preference for tins is baby powder formula, for the really long screw types.
Any other tin will rust, but baby powder tins don't.
My kids are now 18 and 16, so the newest tin is about 15 years old now. Still good as new. Rust is the killer. if you put new screws into a rusted tin, the screw eventually rusts too.

For nuts, bolts and washers I use compartmental organisers. Most car nuts/bolts washers rust out and get worn on removal/refitment, and I usually replace them with the gold zinc/cadmium plated types.

I hate waste as much as the next person, but in some instances recycling is a backward step.

daggy
24-03-2018, 6:31am
I have a shelf dedicated to loose screws, bolts, nuts and whatever else. I also never throw away any small lengths of steel, you would be surprised how often you need only 30mm of something, why buy 3m when it can just be stored behind the shed.

ameerat42
24-03-2018, 8:03am
AP is populated by HOARDERS :nod:

We're changing its name to HOARDWARE HOUSE :nod:

Special offers: old screws, bent nails, pieces of broken cameras...

Geoff Port
24-03-2018, 8:28am
I have a shelf dedicated to loose screws, bolts, nuts and whatever else. I also never throw away any small lengths of steel, you would be surprised how often you need only 30mm of something, why buy 3m when it can just be stored behind the shed.

Agree with you re the steel Daggie. I save all the short bits. 3 x 900 - 1100 lengths of 25x25x1.6 rhs welded together gives you 3 meters of usable steel. I have now become a container hoarder. I have two milk crates overflowing with “ that will come in handy” medicine bottles, milo tins plastic screw tops plastic bowls etc. So much stuff, so little time.


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Liney
25-03-2018, 3:46pm
I have a shelf dedicated to loose screws, bolts, nuts and whatever else. I also never throw away any small lengths of steel, you would be surprised how often you need only 30mm of something, why buy 3m when it can just be stored behind the shed.

I'm the same with wood, short bits of wood come in handy for supports, padding, even for stirring pots of paint if they are thin enough.

John King
25-03-2018, 4:23pm
I have a shelf dedicated to loose screws, bolts, nuts and whatever else.

I have a head dedicated to those things :nod: :lol:

Mark L
25-03-2018, 6:36pm
........ and the other preference for tins is baby powder formula, for the really long screw types.
Any other tin will rust, but baby powder tins don't.
My kids are now 18 and 16, .......

........ "and I'm still feeding the baby powder formula to them because you can never have to many tins that don't rust." was what I was expecting to read.:)

Geoff Port
25-03-2018, 7:44pm
........ "and I'm still feeding the baby powder formula to them because you can never have to many tins that don't rust." was what I was expecting to read.:)

You need to stop that practice Mark or they’ll never leave .[emoji38][emoji38]


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Liney
13-05-2018, 6:26pm
I have to plead the forgiveness of the forum, I was cleaning the garage out today and ended up binning a couple of 1 kilo yogurt tubs full of spare screws, nuts and bolts. I kept everything that i could justify keeping but the whole collection was under the attention of the memsahib so I had to cut back on stock to save the good stuff....

ameerat42
13-05-2018, 6:47pm
Did you photograph them first? - If not, present yourself at the
public stocks tomorrow:D

Hawthy
13-05-2018, 7:02pm
Yep. Guilty.

We are looking to sell our house after 20 years and have been cleaning up and decluttering. The shed attached to the garage is a treasure trove of different sized nails and screws. The problem is that you may need only one or two screws but they come in packets of 50. I have sorted them all into separate plastic drawers and they do come in handy.

We are moving from acreage to a 600 square metre block with no garage. We plan on being there for two years before moving to a house on a larger block down the coast and so have rented a storage shed to store all my accumulated crap plus a nice leather lounge and other furniture. My Gen Y step-daughter can't understand this attitude. Chuck it out and buy new stuff when you move, she says.

She might be right but I can't bring myself to throw stuff out that is perfectly fine.

Tannin
13-05-2018, 7:42pm
Q: What is the difference between "decluttering" and "galactic dark matter"?

A: There is empirical evidence suggesting that the latter is actually a real thing and may even be detectable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.