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Mark L
12-01-2017, 10:52pm
So let's extend Steve's question a bit. .... http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?149913-Why-do-you-take-photographs
Are you really posting for CC , or maybe to say "look at me". Yep we just want to share,;)

Mary Anne
12-01-2017, 11:05pm
I like to share what's in my Garden be it Birds or Flowers, CC is good as it Helps, though I am past that now :nod:

jim
13-01-2017, 5:05am
A bit of all three I think. But being able to show my better photos to people who can tell the difference might be the reason. Most people I know can't and dont care. They think it's a good photo if they're smiling in it, and are genuinely baffled if you point out that it's blurry and overexposed.

ricktas
13-01-2017, 6:30am
It is nice to get the 'likes', but also good to get valuable feedback. Sometimes it can also help solve a 'problem'. So posting photos, for me, is different each time. Entering a comp, it's great to make the final poll (or even win), but the reason for entering a comp is different to posting asking 'how can I fix..".

So for me, there is no one simple answer. It could be for dozens of reasons..depending on the day... the photo..

Or if it is a bird photo.. it's to show how useless I am at those compares to the ex-spurts.

Glenda
13-01-2017, 6:50am
Definitely for the CC - I've learnt so much over the years from members. They often pick up faults or suggest improvements I either haven't seen or thought of. They have also been a valuable source of info and assistance on technical, photography or software queries. Post a question and invariably someone on here will have the answer. I've also enjoyed being able to meet some of the members when travelling and putting a face to the name. It has also improved my general knowledge - I now know so many more varieties of birds than I ever thought I would:D. I was talking to an American couple at a rest area in Gympie and she was asking me the names of various birds and plants (luckily ones I knew) and said I was the first person she'd found who could name them. I remember thinking at the time, it wouldn't have been the case without me being into photography and on the forum.

Lance B
13-01-2017, 8:57am
It is always good to get accolades from your peers and also good to get feedback. Many people post photos here and thus you can also get some ideas on what you can do to improve your own work as well as the feedback to your own photos.

KevPride
13-01-2017, 9:51am
Generally photography is an isolated activity, and as someone else posted many people do not get that a photo is out of focus etc, here you can get CC on the photos which improves what you do and the sharing takes away the isolation part of photography, for me anyway.

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Steve Axford
14-01-2017, 10:21am
Good question. For me, I don't post photos here anymore as I am not really concerned about crits or nice picture anymore. I do post pics on my website and on other things like Facebook, but the reason now is generally to share the photos with those who are interested in the subjects I take or the stories I want to tell. The photos by themselves may, or may not be good photos, but the story is what is important and I always prefer a comment that is about the story, rather than a critique or praise of the photo. I rarely enter comps now for the same reasons. To me, the story is of primary importance with the quality of the photo second and the processing a distant third. I like questions like this because the why of photography interests me more than the how. Bit odd as my photography could be described as very technical.
When I was starting my photography, about 15 years ago, I used critique sites a lot (anyone remember Passion for Pixels) and entered many comps so as to get an idea of what was considered good and what was not. I think this is a very good way to refine your skills and I would recommend it to anyone who is learning photography.

ameerat42
14-01-2017, 11:06am
Good question. For me, I don't post photos here anymore as I am not really concerned about crits or nice picture anymore. I do post pics on my website and on other things like Facebook, but the reason now is generally to share the photos with those who are interested in the subjects I take or the stories I want to tell.

A preliminary reply in this thread to address the point above.

I cannot see why you even said that, Steve. As it stands it does not appear relevant to the thread:
"So why do you post photos to AP? "

Nor does the rest of your post address the question much, except just a little by the concession that
you recommend posting for CC for those learning photography.


The photos by themselves may, or may not be good photos, but the story is what is important and I always prefer a comment that is about the story, rather than a critique or praise of the photo. I rarely enter comps now for the same reasons. To me, the story is of primary importance with the quality of the photo second and the processing a distant third. I like questions like this because the why of photography interests me more than the how. Bit odd as my photography could be described as very technical.
When I was starting my photography, about 15 years ago, I used critique sites a lot (anyone remember Passion for Pixels) and entered many comps so as to get an idea of what was considered good and what was not. I think this is a very good way to refine your skills and I would recommend it to anyone who is learning photography.

FWIW, I will add a post to try to address the Q later...

Steve Axford
14-01-2017, 1:25pm
I thought it was relevant as the thread was started with "So let's extend Steve's question a bit. ....". I look forward to your FWIW

thegrump
14-01-2017, 1:47pm
I would not be taking photos as good as I do today, if it wasn't for the helpful info from the members of AP

ameerat42
14-01-2017, 2:57pm
I thought it was relevant as the thread was started with "So let's extend Steve's question a bit. ....". I look forward to your FWIW

Yes. To the extent that you start to explore the opposite question. But it sounds as if
you're basically only saying:
"I'm way past posting pictures here because I get the response I want elsewhere."
(Apologies for the words used.)
As such - and this is how it seems to me - it rather serves to put you in an "elitist" position.

If I am wrong, please say so, and I will furnish due apologies.

Below is my attempt at answering the Q.


[The FWIW]
I think (or at least hope that most of the time) it's for the basic reason: to get feedback.
That can be in the form of some constructive critique, or as remarks that indicate you
may have nailed/fluked it for a particular shot. So basically, it's posting to practise and
improve skills and abilities. (Yes, and I could and should do more!)
[/The FWIW]

[Reasons for The FWIW]
Feedback can help you improve your abilities, or it helps you to at least maintain your photographic, or PP,
or even story-telling skills. This is particularly so for me when trying something new or that I haven't tried
for a while. Mostly, this is pictures of birds (but also stars/night sky, etc).

Particularly on AP, I've found that it's eye-opening to get a different perspective on an image - either one that
you post yourself, or that someone has posted here and you have given some feedback on. I don't think you can
"rank" the skills of taking the picture, PP the image, or tell a story about it. What would be the use of a poorly
presented picture IF you had the ability and means to do better?

Regarding feedback, the views of less experienced users are to be appreciated as much as those of experienced ones.
Their perspective may not be the same as that of more experienced users, and this could help to remind the latter of
something they may have forgotten about.

Even if the idea is to simply "share" an image - the motivation for which is still mysterious to me - some useful feedback
usually accrues here on AP. Only rarely on AP is received CC either blatantly questioned or some excuse is offered which is
irrelevant to the presentation of the image. - I don't mean the odd burred shot of something in uncontrolled circumstances
where the shot has some other valid significance. But IMO, posting images here also helps people think about them and what
they want to offer as feedback.
[/Reasons for The FWIW]

And finally: 1000 apologies for making you read all this:o
(Or just blame Mark for asking:p)

[Drinks and refreshments available here.:bcake::food04::coffee::beer_mug:]

jim
14-01-2017, 3:50pm
Perhaps Steve is just saying that this forum deals with photography as such, (and is therefore a great training ground for aspiring photographers) while he is now more interested in photography as a means of communication, and prefers to show his pictures to people who are interested in the subject rather than in the means of delivery.

Steve Axford
14-01-2017, 4:38pm
Perhaps Steve is just saying that this forum deals with photography as such, (and is therefore a great training ground for aspiring photographers) while he is now more interested in photography as a means of communication, and prefers to show his pictures to people who are interested in the subject rather than in the means of delivery.

Maybe my explanation left something to be desired as what you say is correct, Jim. Thanks for the simple explanation.

To Ameerat42
I didn't mean to be elitist and put myself up as a "tall poppy" to be cut down. I am often asked to give presentations to photo clubs and fungi specialists, and that has got me thinking about why I take photographs and how I have learnt photography, as these questions are often asked. I do apologise if my musings were not clear.

Unlike you, I do post my images to share with people. The primary purpose is to start a conversation. I have found that the best vehicle for that is either my website or Facebook using the group feature so that the audience are all interested in fungi. I still post here as I also have an interest in the technical and philosophical side of photography, and this site is one of the few that manages to cover that in a reasonably sane way. Sorry if I answered a "Why do you" question with an answer of "Why I don't"

ameerat42
14-01-2017, 4:44pm
OK. Ta for that, Steve.

Steve Axford
14-01-2017, 7:33pm
Was that an apology?

ameerat42
14-01-2017, 8:06pm
I was thanking you for your reply.:D

Mark L
14-01-2017, 9:12pm
Thinking some of the above is why some people don't post stuff here.:confused013

I think Steve's first post was good. He did offer reasons to encourage others to post photos here on AP.
Reckon it's a problem if threads are supposed to simply deal with the original musings and can't be lead to other related things.:confused013
Reasons for not posting photos is easily related to posting photos for me.
At least Steve still post opinions that I think are valuable generally.

Steve Axford
14-01-2017, 11:26pm
Thanks Mark. I was just posting what my thoughts on your question were.

CathyC
15-01-2017, 2:02pm
I don't post images for CC often, but when I do, I post in the hope of getting feedback on an image - mostly with the intention of submitting that image in my local camera club competition. I am less confident with the composition aspect of my images, and will always appreciate feedback on that! ;) I still don't fully understand all the numbers - but I am having a lot of fun experimenting with M, A, S & P on my cameras LOL I occasionally use 'auto' to see what numbers it comes up with, then I use my own anyway :nod:

As I have found, everyone sees an image differently :) and may mention different aspects - but that is what this forum is about!
I usually don't give much CC as I don't have any thing extra to say from what has already been mentioned, but will comment on an image I really like, or feel a connection to :)

DacrimL
16-01-2017, 9:07pm
Why do I post on AP.....hmmmm,
Mainly because I have an image that I like but may need some critique to improve it somehow,
Sometimes it is because we all have a different perspective on a subject,
Lastly I think if one is too be a member of a club or forum one should participate where they can

Mark L
19-01-2017, 10:37pm
Lastly I think if one is too be a member of a club or forum one should participate where they can

Excellent. :th3:

DacrimL
20-01-2017, 7:18pm
Shame I cannot adhere to that theory, often enough tho Mark, P.S - smilies aren't working for me now.....sigh.....

Gazza
20-01-2017, 8:13pm
I signed up here March 2013 but didn't bother joining in or posting because it all looked too complicated. There were then, and still are, so many rules I thought I'd end up breaking something so went and found a smaller forum to play and cut my teeth in.

Became active here the end of 2014 after I thought I was confident, and also looking for something a bit more serious than "nice photo" and the "back slapping" comments.
There are some wonderful people in the smaller forums, but to me have become more like Facebook groups. (please don't anyone take offence, that's not my intention)




"So why do you post photos to AP?".....

Personally, I'm looking for the more informative critique which has always been very helpful and now believe has improved my photography 10 fold since participating here?
In return, (I wouldn't class all of my comments as 'serious critique', mostly soft comments), but hopefully I've been helpful along the way as well (or not :D)

The competitions have been another way of learning and reason for posting here.
Joining in the different challenges each week/month/quarter have been helpful in gauging my performance...the blind voting appears very truthful.


So there ya have it...time for a :beer_mug: now :D....cheers.

feathers
20-01-2017, 10:45pm
To share my way of capturing a moment that meant something to me at the time, and reading other peoples thoughts on it, including getting some constructive critique if needed.
Giving advice is not easy for me, and l just stick to the basics of photography, but also remembering that we all need encouragement first, advice second. :)
Have learnt a lot on this forum, and would like to thank all who participate:nod::th3: Cheers.

Brendo09
24-01-2017, 11:12pm
Why post to AP? As others have alluded to in earlier posts, most of the people I know would go as far as 'That's good.'

Here, I get to learn how it could be better.

That and there's like minded people here who I share interests with.

Hamster
25-01-2017, 9:18pm
For the applause darling, for the applause.

Seriously though, because it helps keep the forum active and it's helpful to hear what people do and don't like about an image.

Mark L
25-01-2017, 9:44pm
For the applause darling,

We haven't met yet so be careful.;):)

Plays With Light
26-01-2017, 7:58pm
Basically, to learn from the CC that is so generously offered by many members on here. One day I'll join an actual photography club and learn from that setting too.

poorman
26-01-2017, 9:27pm
i don't mind posting to the site for general learning but believe it or not I struggle to keep my images under 400kb without looseing quality ..most of the time when I resize 1200 x whatever they end up either over 400kb or well under / and give up posting pics in the end....if the ( kb )could be lifted to say 800 .. there would be a lot more nicer images up from everyone imo .....but great site to learn from..

ameerat42
27-01-2017, 9:03am
i don't mind posting to the site for general learning but believe it or not I struggle to keep my images under 400kb without looseing quality ..most of the time when I resize 1200 x whatever they end up either over 400kb or well under / and give up posting pics in the end....if the ( kb )could be lifted to say 800 .. there would be a lot more nicer images up from everyone imo .....but great site to learn from..

This sounds like something you could pursue, PM. Why don't you make up another thread
in General Help (http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/forumdisplay.php?21-General-Help)?:nod:

mikew09
27-01-2017, 9:34am
I first started playing around with photography in 2009 and become a member of AP in May of 2009. Albeit I didnt really get serious about photography few yrs I took my fair share of snapshots with my trusty 400D and kit lens.
This may be a little long winded but I just want to put some reasoning around why I post and why the driver changed ;-)
To be honest I posted photos for the look at me factor :-), but mostly for the iteration with the AP community. This is one of the very few sites that has a great level of control by the site admins and on the very rare occasion any threads have gone a little pair shaped, Rick and the team have very quickly corrected it, this is most likely the reason AP has had such a long standing group of friendly and very helpful members - On ya Rick.

As all on a journey in photography, I took less photos and become less inspired as I struggled in the never ending search to move from snapshots to photography. For almost a yr I took hardly any photos and almost gave it away but found some inspiration somewhere. It is only of the last couple of yrs I have gotten more serious and to be perfectly honest, now post more for CC than anything in a learning effort to see if my style is a commonly liked style and how much appetite there may be for it. Additionally I really do need comments for improving my photos - like many but not all, I do aspire to be a modest Portrait and Equine photographer in transistion to retirement so CC has become a very important part of my photography as a guide and an indicator if I can make a modest partial income from a much loved hobby.

bobt
28-01-2017, 11:03am
It is always good to get accolades from your peers

Yup ..... always good to hear from other balding old farts who take average photos. :D

Competitions? Nah ..... if i win it's just because I'm so fabulous, and if I lose it's only because the judges wouldn't recognise a snowball in a blizzard. Don't much care for comps, because they are so subjective. All I care about is trying to take something I'm proud of.

Advice? Yup ..... always useful to get other people's ideas and opinions - invaluable, in fact.

Showing off? Sure .... we all like a bit of a brag.

Mark L
30-01-2017, 8:26pm
i don't mind posting to the site for general learning but believe it or not I struggle to keep my images under 400kb without looseing quality ..most of the time when I resize 1200 x whatever they end up either over 400kb or well under / and give up posting pics in the end....if the ( kb )could be lifted to say 800 .. there would be a lot more nicer images up from everyone imo .....but great site to learn from..

So man you might be poor. It means you need to find a free photo hosting place to link your photos from.:)
I use flickr.com because that's what I'm used to. It's pretty easy to link images to AP from there. Other hosting sites are available.
After seeing this, PM me if you want some help getting things going via that flickr place.
This photo is 2000 across the top and 2mbs linked,

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/574/31793790823_419e37378a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qrvuki)
Red-rumped Parrot (https://flic.kr/p/Qrvuki)

Dazz1
01-02-2017, 9:42am
I think you can often tell why I post from the words accompanying the photo. If I am struggling with an image, I try to mention the problem in the text. I am looking for cc, and help.

If I just want to share an image I thought was "good" I'll just put a few words saying what the photo represents. In the latter case, I still hope for CC, ... even praise :)

Sometimes I just want to share something I enjoyed. This might be a misuse of the CC sections in AP, but people still chime in with helpful remarks, sometimes in ways that surprise me, to the betterment of my photography.