Supermoon November 2016

[7deckoy]

Hi guys!

Any advice where is the best spot to photography this in Sydney area?

[Hawthy]

Assuming you have a smart phone or tablet, there is an app that you can use to see where and when the moon will rise from any place on earth. I use one called The Photographer's Ephemeris.

[mudman]

the beaches, west harbour with the bridge in the background

[bcys1961]

the beaches, west harbour with the bridge in the background

Given respective distance to bridge and moon , I think bridge might be in the foreground ? :D

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the beaches, west harbour with the bridge in the background

Given respective distance to bridge and moon , I think bridge might be in the foreground ? :D

[Mark L]

No expert here but since you said "in Sydney area" I'd think as close to the coast as possible. Get the light pollution behind you as much as possible.

[mudman]

i actually meant moon in background, thanks for the correction

[Nick Cliff]

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It is a long time since visiting Sydney however would the ferry pier at Balmain be a suitable location if you were after the Sydney harbour bridge in the photo.

[ameerat42]

Nick. As a first response I would say "No" because of the angle of the bridge from that point.
BUT... do you have some ephemeris information as to where the moon will appear?

Back to the bridge, if you want pretty well front-on perspectives there are two places you can
go to:

1. Blues Point Reserve (the park or the carpark there). The Bridge will be fairly large from there.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Blues+Point+Reserve/@-33.8510393,151.1955503,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b12aef3bb6db3a3:0x703687612847f69!8m2!3d-33.8498663!4d151.2038631?hl=en

2. Balls Head Reserve (a bit of a walk along the track will get you there from the carpark).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Balls+Head+Reserve/@-33.8471748,151.1957562,465m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b12ae562ce9ce5b:0xf017d68f9f1e580!8m2!3d-33.8464136!4d151.1947275?hl=en

Use Satellite View and enlarge. The lookout point is the clearing just east of the look in the road. The Bridge
will appear smaller than from Blues Point, but I suspect that it still won't be far enough away if you intend to
use a telephoto lens to get a large shot of both it and the moon.

Given that the moon will be something OVER half a degree of angular measure, you might care to see
how much of the Bridge it will cover in your picture.

In Google Maps, do a "What's Here" and a street view for what TWO of the the three places can show you.
It's not good enough for Balls Head (because they shot from the road through the trees). I had a pic I
took from there ages ago... Will post when can find it...

[ameerat42]

Oh, and I completely forgot that you get Blues Pt Tower in the shot:(

OK, this is from Balls Head lookout (with Blues Pt before the Bridge)...
128675

[bcys1961]

Oh, and I completely forgot that you get Blues Pt Tower in the shot:(

OK, this is from Balls Head lookout (with Blues Pt before the Bridge)...
128675

Based on my look at TPE if you are Blues Point the moon will be rising well to the left of this photo somewhere over North Sydney. I think you need to be somewhere near the Overseas Passenger Terminal and then the moon should be rising to the left of the Opera House . But there is a cruise ship in so not sure how much of the OPT will be accessible.

[ameerat42]

More info: http://www.space.com/34401-3-supermoons-in-last-3-months-of-2016-nasa-explains-video.html

Note: try other locations... I don't know if you can see the bridge from these (Google doesn't help!).
Birchgrove Ferry wharf, and directly north of that, (maybe) Manns Point (boat ramp or environs.
Just a bit west of Manns Point is Greenwich Point ferry wharf (??maybe best??).
>>Edit: Also, Woolwich Lookout.<<

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Ta for the info, Brad.

PS: IFFF... you can see the Bridge from the further points, it'll be better because:
1.They give a near-perpendicular (west side) view of the Bridge, and
2. It will appear smaller and therefore the moon will appear relatively larger against it.

(Bit of a recce via ferry the day or so before will soon set you straight:D)

[bcys1961]

I live at Greenwich. You can't see the bridge from the Ferry Terminal ,as Ball Head gets in the way . You get a good view of the bridge from Waverton Lookout , or Balls Head as AM showed , but the moon will be well to the left. Depends where you want the moon relative to the bridge , but if you want moon coming up over the bridge I think Balmain Ferry Termiinal , or closer at Barangaroo would provide this view .

[ameerat42]

I think from Barangaroo you'd only get some of the bridge arch structure in such a shot:confused013

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From the on-line TPE:
https://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=-33.856241,151.195305&center=-33.8539,151.1968&dt=20161114142000%2B1100&z=16&spn=0.01,0.03

[bcys1961]

I think from Barangaroo you'd only get some of the bridge arch structure in such a shot:confused013

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From the on-line TPE:
https://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=-33.856241,151.195305&center=-33.8539,151.1968&dt=20161114142000%2B1100&z=16&spn=0.01,0.03

You can get most of the bridge and both pylons in if you go right down on the lower blocks near the water at the point where the point juts out the most . But its not the best view of the bridge as you do also get a fair bit of the wharfs in . It's probably one of the best views IF you want the moon rising over the bridge. Or take a water taxi out to Goat Island! That should provide a clear view , if you can go on it these days ?

[mudman]

does anyone know what time moonrise is happening on the east coast?

[Gazza]

does anyone know what time moonrise is happening on the east coast?

Try this....:url: (http://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=16.768800,-3.007300&center=16.7606,-2.9994&dt=20161113063800%2B0000&z=13&spn=0.08,0.23)

[Mark L]

Try this....:url: (http://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=16.768800,-3.007300¢er=16.7606,-2.9994&dt=20161113063800%2B0000&z=13&spn=0.08,0.23)

If only I was in Timbukto. (where is that?:))

[Gazza]

If only I was in Timbukto. (where is that?:))

Good grief ((:()), just move the pin to where you'd like to take a pic...pick a date, and all the info is below.
Have a play, it's very handy - :nod:

[bcys1961]

This is the view from next to East Balmain Ferry Terminal tonight. Moon should be a litle more to the left tomorrow night.

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Good grief ((:()), just move the pin to where you'd like to take a pic...pick a date, and all the info is below.
Have a play, it's very handy - :nod:

Forgive him . (He's from Mudgee!)

[Warbler]

I suppose you all realise that the moon is no closer today, relatively speaking, than it was yesterday or will be tomorrow.:D

[Morgo]

Hopefully the weather is better tomorrow night :(

[ameerat42]

I suppose you all realise that the moon is no closer today, relatively speaking, than it was yesterday or will be tomorrow.:D

I don't, - or I don't know what you mean.
[Pick whichever is appropriate.]

If you mean "when the supermoon is happening", then it is closer to the earth than at non-supermoon times.

If you are wrong, and you want to lampoon something else, there's plenty of the news reports that "qualify".

And now to a personal story...

I saw the "supermoon" last evening at about 6:30 PM local time...

- And that's all.:(

[Warbler]

I don't, - or I don't know what you mean.
[Pick whichever is appropriate.]

If you mean "when the supermoon is happening", then it is closer to the earth than at non-supermoon times.

If you are wrong, and you want to lampoon something else, there's plenty of the news reports that "qualify".

And now to a personal story...

I saw the "supermoon" last evening at about 6:30 PM local time...

- And that's all.:(

I mean yesterday, today and the day before as I said. Which bit are you having difficulty understanding? It's not as if the moon hasn't been getting closer gradually every day before yesterday and will now be getting further away every day. Do you think it just ducks in for close look at the earth on the day? Those who missed out yesterday will get another chance today.

[ameerat42]

Oh, now I understand what you mean. - The moon is a duck-drawn chariot, and every so often
the leading duck swerves towards the earth and all the other ducks follow and draw the moon closer.

It's a wonder then that this act does not startle the four elephants that hold the earth on their
backs and make it topple.:eek: Lucky that no mice are involved:D

Back to fantasy, what had me confused was the use of the rather absolute "no closer" instead of perhaps
"marginally closer/farther than".

No, the original meaning is now clear. After all, even ducks tugging chariots are subject to inertial forces that
dampen the suddenness if their motion. How could I have expected anything else:confused013

[Warbler]

I suppose you all realise that the moon is no closer today, relatively speaking, than it was yesterday or will be tomorrow.:D
I've bolded a bit for you. At the least the moon is bright.

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To further labour the point, the moon's orbit around Earth is elliptical. At perigee — its closest approach — the moon comes as close as 225,623 miles (363,104 kilometers). At apogee — the farthest away it gets — the moon is 252,088 miles (405,696 km) from Earth. On average, the distance from Earth to the moon is about 238,855 miles (384,400 km). Relatively speaking, the change in the proximity in a 48 hour period would be bugger all.

[ameerat42]

Oh, don't worry. I understood it.:nod: Hence my explanation.
And thanks for the revision of Astro 101, which I did about 40 years ago.:D
Now, what about those ducks? What do they eat, for instance? Do they
roost during New Moon?

[Warbler]

And thanks for the revision of Astro 101, which I did about 40 years ago.:D


Well I'm flattered that you were paying attention this time. ;)

[Mark L]

Ping pong.
The closest this super super moon got means it's about 7% closer than the moon usually is.
How exciting is that.