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Roosta
06-03-2014, 4:12pm
Not sure if this is news to all you Nikon users that have the D600, but.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/02/26/nikon-to-offer-d600-shutter-replacement-to-address-dust-issue?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=generic

MrQ
06-03-2014, 7:14pm
I spotted the service notice on the Nikon site the other day. It might have been nicer to get an email from them (since they have all my info from the D600 rego), but still good that they're offering something.

Has anyone put their camera in? I plan on doing so since I'm still getting splatter after 20,000+ shots but was wondering how long the repair takes.

glennb
07-03-2014, 6:12pm
Good to see. I've had dust issues with my D610 for the few months I've had it. Ive cleaned it for the last time , if I see dust again before the months out it's going back to nikon to be checked ):-(


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wedgtail
17-03-2014, 3:08pm
my question will Nikon Australia do the same .

I @ M
17-03-2014, 3:35pm
my question will Nikon Australia do the same .

It looks like it if the service advisory (http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8139/session/L3RpbWUvMTM5NTAzMDI0OS9zaWQvYzdoWFZxUGw%3D/theme/au) that was updated 10 days ago is correct.

Other than that you can ring them ----

Australia:
Phone: 1300 366 899
Operating Hours: Monday to Friday (10am to 7pm, GMT+10),
Saturday (10am - 2pm, GMT+10), *Closed on Public Holidays

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Good to see. I've had dust issues with my D610 for the few months I've had it. Ive cleaned it for the last time , if I see dust again before the months out it's going back to nikon to be checked ):-(


The issue with the D600 was not completely related to "dust" attaching itself to the lpf, more so with excessive lubricant and or minute shards of "foreign bodies" leaping from the shutter blade area.

The D610 doesn't, as far as I am aware suffer from any of the symptoms that the D600 did.
As far as your thoughts that you have "cleaned it for the last time" go I have news for you and I reckon it is all bad. The FX cameras seem to be more proficient at attracting dust particles and stubbornly hanging on to them. That reminds me, I had better go and drag the D700 out cos it looks like someone sneezed in there again. :D
Cleaning the sensor is simply a way of life with digital cameras, some more so than others. Glenn, I hope you never by a 4x4, take it up a dirt road and complain that you had to wash it afterwards.

glennb
17-03-2014, 8:45pm
It looks like it if the service advisory (http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8139/session/L3RpbWUvMTM5NTAzMDI0OS9zaWQvYzdoWFZxUGw%3D/theme/au) that was updated 10 days ago is correct.

Other than that you can ring them ----

Australia:
Phone: 1300 366 899
Operating Hours: Monday to Friday (10am to 7pm, GMT+10),
Saturday (10am - 2pm, GMT+10), *Closed on Public Holidays

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The issue with the D600 was not completely related to "dust" attaching itself to the lpf, more so with excessive lubricant and or minute shards of "foreign bodies" leaping from the shutter blade area.

The D610 doesn't, as far as I am aware suffer from any of the symptoms that the D600 did.
As far as your thoughts that you have "cleaned it for the last time" go I have news for you and I reckon it is all bad. The FX cameras seem to be more proficient at attracting dust particles and stubbornly hanging on to them. That reminds me, I had better go and drag the D700 out cos it looks like someone sneezed in there again. :D
Cleaning the sensor is simply a way of life with digital cameras, some more so than others. Glenn, I hope you never by a 4x4, take it up a dirt road and complain that you had to wash it afterwards.

Hi Andrew, I don't think I do have the same issue as the D600 but I have had too clean it 4 times (ALL WITH IN 4 WEEK PERIOD) within 2 months of having it, Don't you think that's a bit excessive? I spent $80 getting it cleaned professionally the first time and literally after the next time using it I found a crap load of dust spots on the sensor again, the lens was changed only once at home and carefully done. So I decided to get a cleaning kit so I could do it myself as I cant afford to have a pro cleaned once a month/week and have no camera for 5 to 7days.It has been good since my above post but I have not done much macro and/or checked properly. I did say "I have cleaned it for the last time (and) , if I see dust again before the months out" ..... meaning I wanted to get a month of using it without having to clean it again!! :-( Ive had a d5100 with no dust issues at all for 2.5 years and have not had to clean it once. In regards to buying a 4wd Ive had 2 "real 4wds" I bought them expected to get dirty when I drive through a bog hole and knowing I may destroy the bearings in the aircon and/or get mud in the timing belt and have it seize up half way home and yes also having too clean it. BUT I didn't buy a FF camera expecting to clean the sensor nearly after every time of using it. A couple of times a year and/or changing lenses in a dusty area thought would of been normal? But as I said earlier it has been good since the above post and I will check it properly after the weekend. :th3:

I @ M
17-03-2014, 9:58pm
Glenn, dust on the lpf is related to many things. Changing lenses is merely a small part of it and certainly shouldn't be considered the primary cause of all problems unless you are changing said lenses in a howling gale in the middle of a wheat field.

How many photos have you taken in that 8 week period?
Did you use any lenses that were previously used on another body?
At what apertures are the dust spots showing up at when viewed at about 50%?

Zoom lenses can act as "dust pumps", especially the "unsealed" versions and also lenses that have been swapped from body to body can retain dust particles.
When you change lenses, the shutter is ( should be closed ) and that is a natural light proof barrier against dust. However, the shutter moving in its travel and more so, the mirror flapping up and down each exposure start a "fan" action to push dust around inside a camera.

As noted previously, the dust is microscopic, it seems to be attracted to FX cameras more than DX versions. Cleaning the lpf is a part of normal life.

If you are that worried, ring Nikon and they will have it checked by their workshop ( agent / Camera Clinic ) in Melbourne.

Ok, a dirt road and a 4x4 don't mix, drive it down the main street for a week and then run a chamois over it and see how much crap comes of the paintwork. :)

wedgtail
18-03-2014, 8:40am
Just in from PP site http://petapixel.com/2014/03/17/nikon-asked-halt-d600-sales-china-scathing-nationally-televised-expose/

arthurking83
18-03-2014, 11:06am
If anything comes of this Chinese saga ... hopefully Nikon will realize that treating any issue with their usual contemptuous attitude WILL result in a backlash.
If Nikon don't change their attitude towards any product issues in future, it will hurt them more than just the cost of fixing said issue.

Like Andrew said tho .. dust is just a part of digital photography life. All digital cameras are susceptible to dust spots in the right circumstances and conditions(except for environmentally sealed types I'd guess).
Some will be more immune to the issue than others will be.

If you can get your D600 to Nikon, hopefully the issue will be better resolved in that dust will be less of an issue in the future, but don't think that it will be banished forever!

Now .. why aren't Sony and Fuji's light leaking issues as prevalent on the net.(I bet not many have even heard of these problems yet!)
ans. because those two companies are actively fixing the issues well before they snowball into a monumental headache

wedgtail
18-03-2014, 4:15pm
if you get a daily update from PP you will have .
:D

Cage
18-03-2014, 11:10pm
I've had my D600 for about 12 months.

As far as 'dust' on the sensor is concerned, it comes and goes as I live in a dusty rural environment. Today's dust smelled of turkey poop as someone close by was ploughing it in. I have my D600 set to remove dust on start-up and shutdown.

However I had a couple of spots, which in my opinion, were definitely were not dust, as you could see a distinct coloured halo around them. They were only visible from about f15 and smaller when shooting against lightish backgrounds.

I did a wet clean and they have gone. Be interested to see if any more appear. My camera has been on 'holidays' for most of the last six months and only has about 3K actuation's. From what I've read the problem seems to settle down at around 5k actuation's. Fingers crossed. :crossed:

MrQ
24-03-2014, 1:27pm
From what I've read the problem seems to settle down at around 5k actuation's. Fingers crossed. :crossed:
My D600 has a bit over 20,000 and still has new spots appearing. It will be going back to Nikon as soon as I can do without it for a couple of weeks.

bconolly
28-03-2014, 7:17pm
I see Nikon in the US are now replacing D600's with repeated problems: http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0328_01.htm

MrQ
12-04-2014, 5:26pm
I dropped my D600 in with Nikon yesterday for this service. I've been told it will take about three weeks, which is a bit longer than I was expecting/hoping. I guess they're getting a bit of a queue of D600s. :P

Cage
12-04-2014, 5:37pm
I've had another oil spot appear since my wet clean about four weeks ago. :(

If it keeps happening I guess it's off to Nikon too.

Cheers

Kevin

bconolly
13-04-2014, 6:59pm
I dropped my D600 in with Nikon yesterday for this service. I've been told it will take about three weeks, which is a bit longer than I was expecting/hoping. I guess they're getting a bit of a queue of D600s. :P

Yeah this is exactly why I've held off dropping mine in. I'll let the backlog clear and then drop mine in I think!


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wedgtail
30-04-2014, 12:11pm
Mine went in on the 23/3/14 called today to see what the hold up is Nikon Australia have had a 2 week delay on parts :eek:

MrQ
05-05-2014, 1:48pm
Mine went in on the 23/3/14 called today to see what the hold up is Nikon Australia have had a 2 week delay on parts :eek:
They hadn't mentioned that when I called, but it would explain why I still haven't got mine back after three+ weeks (and counting ...). :( If they had mentioned that early on I would have taken the camera back and left the service until later.

MrQ
06-05-2014, 1:40pm
Ok - finally got my D600 back from Nikon today. They had it just over three weeks, although there were a bunch of public holidays in the middle. The shutter has been replaced. Hopefully that will be the end of the problem but I guess it will take another 1000 shots or so to see for sure.

wedgtail
09-05-2014, 10:11am
Mine came back yester day no to see if it develops the same problem with the new shutter might try some interval timing series to see if the censor stays clean.

wedgtail
09-05-2014, 12:44pm
Mine came back yester day no to see if it develops the same problem with the new shutter might try some interval timing series to see if the censor stays clean.

Cage
17-05-2014, 2:02pm
I've just arranged to have my D600 serviced prior to selling it.

The guy at Nikon service told me they are not only cleaning the sensor, but are also replacing the shutter mechanism on all D600's that come in for cleaning.

It's being picked up by a courier at their expense.

GlennSan
17-05-2014, 11:35pm
Thanks for the latest heads-up wrt Australian servicing. My D600 has a very low shutter count but I may well arrange for the service to be done. Even with the low shutter count I've noticed a couple of suspicious spots..