Ken Rockwell said.......D600/800/4 all the same inside.... [Archive] - AusPhotography:: Australia's Premier Photography Forum::

livio

23-02-2013, 3:33pm

Hmm How Strange, I did have a read of this and I have some real concerns If you really want to you can say that every camera inside is the same, after all it is a light tight box. Of course the sensors, computational arrays, electronic circuitry, features and specifications are all different. This seemed more of a rant than anything else. I would read into this two things. The first is that Ken is having a falling out with Nikon, I'm not surprised, with the advent of the internet there are many great web sites related to photography, AP is one of them, Photo Argus, heaps of others. I also think that both Nikon and Canon to some extent are being pushed by Sony so there will be less and less freebies. I am guessing that the income Ken was making from his web site is in decline and the realization that he no longer has the clout he once had is moving him to make some brash and outlandish statements. The truth is both Nikon and Canon are producing digital cameras and lenses which are extremely good and aimed at the mass market. Sony, Olympus, Pentax also have great cameras in this segment. All of the camera manufacturers will continue to develop new features and improve image quality else they simply fold. This is not the first time Ken has taken a swipe at Nikon though, unless he also starts re-inventing his web pages he too will fall by the way side. I hope it does not happen soon, I think of Ken as the Ken Done of photography with his love of vibrant colours, but I do acknowledge that he too needs to pass the baton on to others.

Kind Regards
Livio

I @ M

23-02-2013, 3:43pm

I think of Ken as the Ken Done of photography with his love of vibrant colours,

He has an all absorbing fascination with green, after all, that is the colour of all the US dollar notes -----

KevPride

23-02-2013, 4:00pm

Every time you read he gets more $, don't read!. He may eventually go away.

arthurking83

23-02-2013, 5:14pm

LOL! he's a genius.

Took all his massive powers of deductive reasoning to realize that the D800 and D800E have the same insides!
He's probably exhausted himself now and may never fully recover from this recent monumental effort, so we may never ever hear from him again anyhow.

D800 ... D800E .. same insides ...... who would have guessed that!
Could have something to do with Nikon's recent acquiescence to Microsoft for various IP infringements tho

I myself was almost completely convinced that the D800E was based more upon the insides of a D80(with one or two mild updates of course) and that the D800 was a Coolpix S800c with a flare kit and a bigger hole for inserting larger memory cards. D4 is a pimped out D40, and D600 is partly Canon 6D and partly PentaxK100D ... 6x100=600 ;) Of course the inverse naming convention with the use of a D prefix as opposed to it used as a suffix, is simply to divert would be Sherlock Einsteinian geniuses off the real scent, wouldn't it.

I @ M

23-02-2013, 5:29pm

LOL! he's a genius.

Nah, he is just cheesed off cos Nikon never returned his email where he suggested to them that they should add another picture control parameter in the menus called KR and consisting of 2 more graduations of saturation and contrast.

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Every time you read he gets more $, don't read!. He may eventually go away.

Sage advice Kevin. :th3:

The only reason I know that he exists is that people keep bringing his name up on this forum, haven't read a word of his for quite a few years ------

Kym

23-02-2013, 5:32pm

KR is worse than useless because he misleads the ignorant!! Quoting his own website...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm

This website is my way of giving back to our community. It is a work of fiction, entirely the product of my own imagination. This website is my personal opinion. To use words of Ansel Adams on page 193 of his autobiography, this site is my "aggressive personal opinion," and not a "logical presentation of fact."

Thus we MUST discount EVERYTHING KR says. Too many noobs (and even experienced people) think KR might actually know something, he does not!!!

We don't parody KR for nothing http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?14432-Photographic-Humor-(Jokes)&p=509888&viewfull=1#post509888 :lol:

AVALANCHE

23-02-2013, 5:34pm

I have the same insides as Usain Bolt.....but one of us performs better than the other .....:confused013

Hahaha hit the nail on the head.

Lance B

23-02-2013, 6:11pm

KR is a firm believer in the adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

arthurking83

23-02-2013, 6:41pm

... and that (bad)publicity leads to more hits on his site .. again.

KR is one of the most amusing comedians .... with a specialist bent towards photography.

Analog6

23-02-2013, 8:03pm

he wouldn't kmow his you know what from a hole in the ground. man's a total moron. Wonder what his next 'revelation' will be? And yet he gets advertisers to pay to be linked to him! Sheesh!

ricktas

23-02-2013, 8:25pm

he wouldn't kmow his you know what from a hole in the ground. man's a total moron. Wonder what his next 'revelation' will be? And yet he gets advertisers to pay to be linked to him! Sheesh!

Most of his ads are affiliate ones. Anyone can sign up for an affiliate advertising campaign and then pick and choose the advertisers they want on their site. I use www.clixgalore.com.au for a lot of the AP ads.

If you hover your mouse over the advertisers on his ads page : http://www.kenrockwell.com/links.htm#stores you will see they are not just links to the site, but contain extra code so that if someone clicks one of them, and buys, he gets commission.

knumbnutz

23-02-2013, 9:39pm

No, I don't think Usain Bolt takes as good as photos as you Matt.

I have the same insides as Usain Bolt.....but one of us performs better than the other .....:confused013

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Wow Nikon......trying to pull the wool over Kens eyes like that, you can't fool him.

Imagine what happens when Ken finds out about Harley Davidson and how they have been conning us for over 100 years ! :eek:

yep, Ken has said this and you better believe it......:D

.......`Holy cow, I just realized Nikon's great deception of 2012: the D600, D800, D800E and D4 all have the same insides! They are all the same cameras designed and produced at the same time with the same insides, differing only in exterior casing and when Nikon chose to announce them. Nikon got cheap and really only developed one set of guts that's used for all three cameras, and then announced them at different times to try to hide it.` etc...

link location...http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d600-d800-d4-are-the-same-camera.htm

ricktas

23-02-2013, 9:45pm

His about page: http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm

and I quote : "This website is my way of giving back to our community. It is a work of fiction, entirely the product of my own imagination. This website is my personal opinion. To use words of Ansel Adams on page 193 of his autobiography, this site is my "aggressive personal opinion," and not a "logical presentation of fact."

richardb

23-02-2013, 9:50pm

Must be the new Nikon 'product diversification' strategy. Some kind of commercial management technique.
So what keeps you all from buying a Nikon.:lol:

arthurking83

23-02-2013, 11:13pm

LOL! .... reading his diatribe reveals an even more humorous aspect to his level of competence(as a photographic commentator).

He claims that D800/D4/D600 all have the same AF systems ... based on what information(I hear you ask) ... the fact that they all share the same new styled Auto-Manual switch.
With the newer Nikons the old style CSM switch at the front lower LHS, used to switch between Continuous/Single/Manual focus modes.

So based on this important new feature that Nikon has adopted across the board on the upper end DSLRs(D7100 now included) .. they all have the same AF system!!

Never mind that the D600 uses the older tech CAM4800 AF module first seen in the D7000, and then the D5200 .. nor the fact that the D800 and D4(and now the D7100) use the CAM3500 AF module.
And the fact that the D600 only has 39 AF points, where the D800 and D4 have 51 AF points!! .. No, no, no .. because they all use this new styled Auto/Manual switch, it's only logical that they must all use the same AF sytems! :p

Good one Ken ... most perceptive of you there old chap. :lol:

FWIW: this new styled Auto-Manual switch is much better once you get used to it, so it's only logical that Nikon adopts it across the board.

Oh, and there's propbably no need to make mention of the fact that he blathers on about MP/s processing rates across the range of cameras he lists!

His analysis of the similarities of certain camera internals is based on how many megapixels are transferred to the memory buffer every second!

and then there's this doozey of incomprehensible garbled diarrhea (which I need to place in a quotation):

16, 24 or 36 MP is all the same. Nikon's simply varied them to segment the market. 10 MP is more than enough for anything. Nikon got the frame rate up in the D4 by reducing resolution instead of putting more processing in the D4, and put way too many pixels in the D800 to attract computer guys who love processing. Honestly, 24 MP is ideal, and we only get that in the D600. I always set my D800 down in resolution; throughput goes to pot trying to work on hundreds of 36 MP images, unless of course you're a guy who builds computers.

If someone can explain .. in plain ol English what this is supposed to be trying to explain?

firstly we read that 10Mp is more than enough. Somewhere down the track we read that 24Mp is ideal, but that Nikon's idea of enhancing performance from the D4 was to down res the camera to 16Mp instead of adding processing power.

:confused013

So which is it.. is 10Mp more than enough, or is 16Mp too little now .. obviously 24Mp is the ideal number, so 16Mp is not actually as over inflated as a 10Mp reference is supposed to be telling us that it is .. and as for those more than enough 10Mp .. why the hell would you purchase a camera with 36Mp if anything over 10Mp is starting to get beyond reasonable management issues?
Surely he knew that the D800 that he purchased had 36Mp .. didn't he? ;) ... but to down res a 36Mp camera deliberately simply because he's not a computer building geek!!

He's obviously having difficulty trying to work out what he wants in the space of only a minute or so ..ie. in the time it takes to write a simple short paragraph ..... would you trust someone to offer you advice when they're confusing themselves to this level?

MattNQ

23-02-2013, 11:30pm

No, I don't think Usain Bolt takes as good as photos as you Matt.

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Thank you knumbnutz. I am envious though that he got to use a D4 and I haven't ....but I am relieved I don't need to sell a kidney to buy a D4 now - A D600 will do as it is now officially identical :D

Mathy

23-02-2013, 11:45pm

Hmmmm, I'm happy to find myself in a position where I don't have to disagree with Arthur :D I've always thought that Ken R's stuff consisted of a lot of froth and bubble with little substance. It's like he thought 'oh! the internet is here, I'd better do something' :lol:

If you want a name to add to your stable of decent information contributors, then wrt Nikon, I can recommend 'ThatNikonGuy' - Matt Granger, cheers Deb

arthurking83

24-02-2013, 12:09am

Hmmmm, I'm happy to find myself in a position where I don't have to disagree with Arthur :D ......

Well proof right there that you're .... ummm ..... one of a kind!
(even I disagree with myself more often than not, so you're currently trailing the field here).

I @ M

24-02-2013, 8:05am

If you want a name to add to your stable of decent information contributors, then wrt Nikon, I can recommend 'ThatNikonGuy' - Matt Granger, cheers Deb

Oh my!!!!

After having googled that name I am of the opinion that he may just be KR's illegitimate 1/2 brother. :eek:

As an indication of the pearls of wisdom this guy is capable of just have a look at two pages from his web site.

This one where he urges you to buy your gear from overseas (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/inside-the-photographers-studio/item/343-why-that-nikon-guy-who-is-matt-granger) ( think KR click through revenue earning ) and then this page from his site where he extols the virtues of buying gear locally (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/gear-talk/item/335-how-to-kill-a-nikon-d4--24-70mm-f28) to have warranty and NPS support to aid the recovery from his self confessed stupidity.

arthurking83

24-02-2013, 8:27am

I don't mind Matt. He's not the best reviewer out there, but he gives you concise info and at least it's not convoluted nor contradictory from one line to the next.

I @ M

24-02-2013, 8:34am

I don't mind Matt. He's not the best reviewer out there, but he gives you concise info and at least it's not convoluted nor contradictory from one line to the next.

See edited post above, self contradictory just took on a whole new meaning.

arthurking83

24-02-2013, 9:01am

Ah! OK .. I haven't seen all that much of his stuff, nor even his site .. until a few moments ago. I've only ever seen him on some youtube videos explaining this and that and comparing that against this and that.

Only just now had a quick look at three of his video reviews/info pieces directly from his website.
The D4/24-70 escapade is hilarious .. didn't screw down his tripod head!(why was it even unscrewed in the first place!!!)
Watched the X300 bag review in pieces here and there ... I needs me one of them!
And also watched the D7100 informational video. A bit premature me thinks, but everything he's explained in that video seemed logical.

One indiscretion doesn't make for a lifetime of negativity me thinks ... and if he's previously espoused the virtues of buying cheaper o/s and only recently seen the worth of buying the expensive stuff locally, I can't see any problem with this.
We've all done it to a degree, where we may purchase one item from o/s due to the price difference, but then purchase something else locally due to the risk factor in something going wrong.

Warren Ackary

24-02-2013, 9:25am

In simple terms.. he is a dill.

I am a noob but I know the difference & I certainly havent got time to read someones rubbish that only shoots saturated JPGS :lol:

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Oh my!!!!

After having googled that name I am of the opinion that he may just be KR's illegitimate 1/2 brother. :eek:

As an indication of the pearls of wisdom this guy is capable of just have a look at two pages from his web site.

This one where he urges you to buy your gear from overseas (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/inside-the-photographers-studio/item/343-why-that-nikon-guy-who-is-matt-granger) ( think KR click through revenue earning ) and then this page from his site where he extols the virtues of buying gear locally (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/gear-talk/item/335-how-to-kill-a-nikon-d4--24-70mm-f28) to have warranty and NPS support to aid the recovery from his self confessed stupidity.

Matt is ok.. yes he has said himself he is clumsy and he has also stated that they adds help (think he meant as in supplement his time for making video's).

I will say this though, I have learnt alot from Matt compared to other reviewers.. he tells it like it is and does make a verbal note that its his opinion on certain things only.

Kym

24-02-2013, 11:00am

In simple terms.. he is a dill.

NO!! He is much worse because people quote him as a reliable source, and he is not.

I just edited out all KR references used on a Wikipedia page to justify some points about photography,
then posted the link from above of the talk page of the article to explain my actions.

KR is very dangerous to the uninformed.

Sifor

24-02-2013, 11:43am

If you want a name to add to your stable of decent information contributors, then wrt Nikon, I can recommend 'ThatNikonGuy' - Matt Granger, cheers Deb

I met him yesterday in Brisbane, a great bloke.. his channel that focuses more on technique and how to shoot well has been very helpful and interesting.

As an indication of the pearls of wisdom this guy is capable of just have a look at two pages from his web site.

This one where he urges you to buy your gear from overseas (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/inside-the-photographers-studio/item/343-why-that-nikon-guy-who-is-matt-granger) ( think KR click through revenue earning ) and then this page from his site where he extols the virtues of buying gear locally (http://www.thatnikonguy.com/gear-talk/item/335-how-to-kill-a-nikon-d4--24-70mm-f28) to have warranty and NPS support to aid the recovery from his self confessed stupidity.

Perhaps because he has an incredibly large following overseas and especially in America? It would make sense to recommend an international camera store as a good place to buy from.. I have purchased a lot from B&H as I couldn't get the gear here in Australia at all. I don't see any contradiction by Matt recommending DCW for Australians. Indeed if I may, Ausphotography has B&H as a site sponsor and I'd imagine some local Australian camera stores too and that doesn't give rise to any 'contradiction'. In any case, I don't see why his 'recommended' page is the appropriate way to judge him - make your own mind up after watching his videos.

Tommo1965

24-02-2013, 12:56pm

matt's sold out ;)...he was once the Nikon Guy..now hes the guy that loves all cameras and platforms..and admits that calling himself the Nikon guy was a mistake ....I think what he's missing is his channel only built up because of the name. people do a Nikon search on you-tube and up pops the Nikon guy ..thats at least how I found him...now its photo news and reviews...lol :rolleyes:

KR is a danger as far as im concerned...when I first got back into the photography and was looking at DSLRs...I found his site and was seriously taking note of his recommendations ( Ill admit what many other wont :o )..its not until more experience and learning that you realise that his opinion can be taken with a dose of salt...his lens database does have some merit though..even for looking at previous incarnations of various lenses

I @ M

24-02-2013, 1:21pm

Matt is ok.. yes he has said himself he is clumsy and he has also stated that they adds help (think he meant as in supplement his time for making video's).

I will say this though, I have learnt alot from Matt compared to other reviewers.. he tells it like it is and does make a verbal note that its his opinion on certain things only.

Warren, it was only today that I really learned of him and after a look at his various sites/video channels I was rather struck by the incongruity of his posts.
It rather reminded me of KR in the way he was stating two rather distinctly different ideals.
I'm sure that there is value for some in his reviews and videos as well as his workshops and I certainly don't blame him for having click through advertising revenue on his site, after all as you said, he deserves to have something in return for his efforts. I guess he is just like all of us where we have to balance our time and budgets between or day jobs, hobbies and home and family.

I met him yesterday in Brisbane, a great bloke.. his channel that focuses more on technique and how to shoot well has been very helpful and interesting.

Perhaps because he has an incredibly large following overseas and especially in America? It would make sense to recommend an international camera store as a good place to buy from.. I have purchased a lot from B&H as I couldn't get the gear here in Australia at all. I don't see any contradiction by Matt recommending DCW for Australians. Indeed if I may, Ausphotography has B&H as a site sponsor and I'd imagine some local Australian camera stores too and that doesn't give rise to any 'contradiction'. In any case, I don't see why his 'recommended' page is the appropriate way to judge him - make your own mind up after watching his videos.

Troy, as I said above ^ --- and I certainly have nothing with people purchasing items from overseas as many of the prices are far better than Australia, I just found it ironic that the ads for o/seas stores abound on his site and then he recommends that Australians should buy local but I can't see any links anywhere to local suppliers. I did go back and look at quite a few of his pages on his sites and a couple of his videos, I am sure that some will find them helpful and I am definitely not judging him purely on one or two pages.

It was all simply in the context of the discussion about KR and I found similarities between KR and MG in their approaches to their presence on the web..

Sifor

24-02-2013, 2:18pm

It was all simply in the context of the discussion about KR and I found similarities between KR and MG in their approaches to their presence on the web..

All good, but do take the time to watch some of his videos, you might come across something helpful or interesting.

I @ M

24-02-2013, 2:51pm

you might come across something helpful or interesting.

Such as?

I see plenty of his videos in the playlists , many about gear but when I need to know about gear I rather like to read the tech specs and then try them out for myself if I am in the market for something.

I see plenty of videos seemingly full of glitz and glam portraiture and that aint my scene and without spending valuable photography time pouring over all his offerings I don't see anything that jumps and hits me as a "must watch".

Do you have any favourites that you can recommend?

Sifor

24-02-2013, 3:25pm

Do you have any favourites that you can recommend?

Well, if you feel like watching a 20 minute video, I found this one interesting as being able to see how the strobes are set up and positioned for a desired effect - from start to finish - helps a lot in the learning process for someone who has never done it before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TItX5uCCI

that aint my scene

Fair enough, but others do appreciate and enjoy watching these kinds of videos.

:tog:

We're probably going too far off topic discussing TNG though. Regarding KR, I have only really used his information for looking up the specs of older lenses like weight and filter thread size.

arthurking83

24-02-2013, 4:06pm

I thought his comparison between the 24-70/2.8 lenses was very reasonably done.

His final verdict was about what one would predict anyhow .. in that the Sigma and Tamron both have very good ability given their price points.
Many other reviewers would simply ridicule the two non OEM lenses simply because the name doesn't match the camera's branding :rolleyes:

I'm not convinced with MG's bokeh video tho. The Nikon 50/1.2 is an ok lens, and it's advantage is simply in the fact that it's 1/3-1/2 stop faster than the f/1.4 lenses. But it's bokeh rendering is actually one of it's weak points. Bokeh is not about blur itself, but about the quality of the blur .. the little details that make bokeh .. well, bokeh(and not just blur).

Sigma 50/1.4 has better bokeh, if my failing memory serves me well ... I think the 50/1.4G also has better bokeh rendering.
So in this case I'm not entirely convinced by his reviewing system.

I first noticed TNG when he did his Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC review/comparo about a year ago.
I don't find him hard to watch or read(if he ever concentrated on writing stuff too).

In fact I've bookmarked his site to watch him a bit more if I ever find the free time to do so.

As for this idea that he's sold out(to cameras in general) position .. I can totally understand this realignment away from a singular manufacturer. With the general consensus that it's not what you shoot with, but how well you do it, there should be no reason for him to simply review Nikon gear.

Tommo1965

24-02-2013, 5:02pm

As for this idea that he's sold out(to cameras in general) position .. I can totally understand this realignment away from a singular manufacturer. With the general consensus that it's not what you shoot with, but how well you do it, there should be no reason for him to simply review Nikon gear.

I can see his point as well Arthur...but I doubt he would have been as successful if he wasn't at first called the Nikon Guy.. I've no doubt that the channel has opened up new opportunities for him and he see brand diversification as the way forward..and of course that "Nikon Guy" title is a bit limiting

I liked the 24-70 shoot out as well as the 50mm and the 70-200mm shoot outs

I watch far too may Youtube vids and not doing it myself....its counter productive

I @ M

24-02-2013, 5:30pm

All good, but do take the time to watch some of his videos, you might come across something helpful or interesting.

Fair enough, but others do appreciate and enjoy watching these kinds of videos.

The highlighting in the quoted text is mine.

I fully realise what others may like to watch and if they find his style of photography interesting and his videos help them then all is good but seeing as you were advising me that I might find something interesting I was merely replying about my viewing habits

Well, if you feel like watching a 20 minute video, I found this one interesting as being able to see how the strobes are set up and positioned for a desired effect - from start to finish - helps a lot in the learning process for someone who has never done it before.

I will have a look later and report back, thanks for the recommendation. :th3:

We're probably going too far off topic discussing TNG though. Regarding KR, I have only really used his information for looking up the specs of older lenses like weight and filter thread size.

I don't think it is too far off topic given the similarities between their "styles" of web presence.

May I suggest that instead of having a look at KR and his summation of lenses, the specifications of which I feel that he may have "borrowed" from elsewhere rather than actually have used or even seen, that you have a look at Roland Vinks (http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/) page which is a very handy factual resource. :)

Lance B

24-02-2013, 5:44pm

I met him yesterday in Brisbane, a great bloke.. his channel that focuses more on technique and how to shoot well has been very helpful and interesting.

I think you could say the same for many of the excellent photographers from this forum. The one's that I have met are probably just as good, if not better, but they don't get the kudos as they don't have websites that attract the attention and therefore the publicity and limelight. KR is a self promoter and that is what he is really good at, like so many other people that are self promoters, their work maybe great, but there are many that are better, just that they are not as good at self promotion, assumimg that they want the limelight to start with.

Warren Ackary

04-03-2013, 10:51am

NO!! He is much worse because people quote him as a reliable source, and he is not.

I just edited out all KR references used on a Wikipedia page to justify some points about photography,
then posted the link from above of the talk page of the article to explain my actions.

KR is very dangerous to the uninformed.

Kym, I was referring to KR not Matt Granger. yes I agree with most that he has OS companies on his site but when you look under his video's he makes he has links to Australia & OS retailers and quite often a link to where a person can purchase the item being reviewed.

I have to be biased with Matt Granger, his video's have helped me (I am not much for reading) and even the occasional email. Having said that, that is my own personal opion as someone may actually Like KR :lol:

Epoc

04-03-2013, 3:59pm

Moron or not here is his net worth:

estimated worth,
$ 2,188,417

WOW Score for kenrockwell.com : 4.92 out of 5

98 / 100 WOW Score

Daily Visits: 147,082
Daily Pageviews: 676,577
Daily Revenue: $ 1,015

Monthly Visits: 4,412,457
Monthly Pageviews: 20,297,302
Monthly Revenue: $ 30,450

Yearly Visits: 52,949,482
Yearly Pageviews: 243,567,619
Annual Earnings: $ 365,400

Guess he's probably sitting back in his mansion laughing at us, laughing at him ;)

arthurking83

05-03-2013, 12:40am

......

Guess he's probably sitting back in his mansion laughing at us, laughing at him ;)

Thinking of new ways to cause controversy to start the chatter cycle all over again!

Revenue drops below the 30,450 threshold and the stupidity begins again ... we all end unwittingly performing the role of his PR machine/advertising agency.

I've been thinking for a while now that I should switch to jpg, triple overcook the saturation and contrast on all Picture Controls ... long before KR ever went down this road.

Oh! and did I ever tell 'yas all that Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Fuji, Leica, Hasslblad, et al .. have all colluded to manufacture just the one camera ..... that has been slightly remodelled by each manufacturer into various models within their ranges for their respective marketing purposes.

Who'd have thought it .. a Nikon D3200 is basically the same camera as the 1DX(with a few extra squares mimicking as focus areas, which is the same camera as the Leica M9 with a much reduced AF system :p .. which is the same camera as Hassy's H4D-60 .. which is basically a pumped up Fuji X100 with a kit lens! :D

All made by the same factory in China and rebadged as various models by each manufacturer!

Mathy

05-03-2013, 1:53am

Warren Ackary

05-03-2013, 7:46am

I have to say that when I naively suggested Matt Grainger (aka ThatNikonGuy) I didn't intend a comparison between him and KR, as I believe they are worlds apart. Matt has recently published a video explaining the genesis of his name and yes, he shoots other brands and reviews anything - he's a fanboy of gear, not necessarily Nikon :D I stumbled across his YouTube channel about 12 months ago and liked how he went about presenting an opinion on gear. I feel he's pretty honest in his appraisal of stuff and doesn't try and push people in one direction or the other.

What really hooked me was a 12hr SpreeCast he did which included Delly Carr and Jasin Boland, 2 Nikon Ambassadors talking about their work and interacting with the audience via video and text - I lost a considerable amount of time that day, it was so inspiring. And that's the main thing that I like about Matt, he's got a YouTube channel, a Flickr community and a monthly competition that he videos the judging for - some great images and commentary and it's free. If people want to click and buy him a beer, that's their choice. He puts out far more than KR will ever do, cheers Deb

Hi Deb, couldnt have said it better.. liking what he does, that 12 hour spreecast was great. I tend to RSVP all of them because the people who do come on may have something good to feedback as a tip etc. Yes indeed, he does all that and more, probably does a 16 hour day everyday to be comfortable and yet KR (figures above), sits back and lets curiosity of people make the money for him by reading his rambles.

Having said that Im going to check to see if my D7000 shoots medium format that I am very sure I saw on his page.. imaging a small bodies camera like that shooting medium format

fillum

05-03-2013, 12:59pm

The SEO (search engine optimisation) on Ken's site is outstanding (at least in Google as I see it)...

ricktas

05-03-2013, 4:58pm

my initials are KR..backwards..RK..maybe I can create a mirror site, in his style and make my fortune. Did you know the iPhone 6 and the Samsung Galaxy S4 are both going to be the same on the inside? And Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott really are one person. Julia is Tony's drag queen alter ego...buy stuff from my site, make me rich.

I @ M

05-03-2013, 5:07pm

A bit of a snip and rearrange ----

Did you know Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott are the same on the inside?

And the inside consists of? :rolleyes:

ricktas

05-03-2013, 5:45pm

A bit of a snip and rearrange ----

And the inside consists of? :rolleyes:

Slugs and snails: And puppy-dogs' tails,

knumbnutz

05-03-2013, 9:12pm

I thought thats what Ausphotography was ?
...with a little bit of fiction in here as well. mmm it is close to a mirror !

my initials are KR..backwards..RK..maybe I can create a mirror site, in his style and make my fortune. Did you know the iPhone 6 and the Samsung Galaxy S4 are both going to be the same on the inside? And Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott really are one person. Julia is Tony's drag queen alter ego...buy stuff from my site, make me rich.

ricktas

05-03-2013, 9:29pm

I thought thats what Ausphotography was ?
...with a little bit of fiction in here as well. mmm it is close to a mirror !

Hmmm : KR AP : nup.. that cannot be right :D

arthurking83

05-03-2013, 9:53pm

.....

And the inside consists of? :rolleyes:

I'm expecting variable pixel sensor technology with the manufacturers dumbing down the numbers to suit a marketing strategy based on which model is top dog at the time!

The internal processing will look something like:

If Abbott #1 > then enter 1 Mp mode > end if.
If Gillard #1 > then enter 0.5Mp mode > end if.
If Abbott and Gillard = #1 > then enter 5Kp mode > enter : endless loop mode
Then : end if because end is nigh.
If if ended (already) : and : irrespective of #1 > limit transfer of data from CPU into storage = 1 bit per second mode.

Yep! I need to do a refresher course on writing code :p

Warren Ackary

06-03-2013, 9:36pm

I'm expecting variable pixel sensor technology with the manufacturers dumbing down the numbers to suit a marketing strategy based on which model is top dog at the time!

The internal processing will look something like:

If Abbott #1 > then enter 1 Mp mode > end if.
If Gillard #1 > then enter 0.5Mp mode > end if.
If Abbott and Gillard = #1 > then enter 5Kp mode > enter : endless loop mode
Then : end if because end is nigh.
If if ended (already) : and : irrespective of #1 > limit transfer of data from CPU into storage = 1 bit per second mode.

Yep! I need to do a refresher course on writing code :p

:th3: You forgot.. tracert>/ also :lol:

arthurking83

06-03-2013, 11:37pm

I was thinking of adding Ballieu into the mix too .. but it seems I'm a bit too late now anyhow!

..... mind you had I, he'd probably have got the cops onto me :p

Warren Ackary

07-03-2013, 7:34am

I can see his point as well Arthur...but I doubt he would have been as successful if he wasn't at first called the Nikon Guy.. I've no doubt that the channel has opened up new opportunities for him and he see brand diversification as the way forward..and of course that "Nikon Guy" title is a bit limiting

Of topic.. Matt may be called That Nikon Guy.. but to me the person who should be called THE Nikon Guy is Jasin Boland.. lives & breaths Nikon as well as being the best in his field.. Check out his website if you havent already, he has got to have nearly every lens made and is a Nikon Ambassador, something you have to earn.

So My Nikon F5 can go cropped now and soon will be updated to have a sesnor in it Ken? :lol: