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WhoDo
09-10-2012, 5:23pm
I always wondered how clever photographers were able to use liquids to simulate clothing, etc., on models. I find it just an extraordinary result and assumed it would cost a fortune to achieve using high speed strobes, camera's or whatever. Apparently not, as this video shows. Enjoy!


http://vimeo.com/50946814

JM Tran
09-10-2012, 5:50pm
I use Broncolor, and while this is a good video to show what the Einstein CAN do in some scenarios, it does not point out what it CANT do and WHY pro photographers still buy and hire 12 thousand dollar Profoto and Broncolor packs, and for good reasons.

The Einstein, whilst great for its price, lacks the colour temperature consistency - which any serious photographer values when you are shooting constantly for hours. Flash heads heat up - colour temperature changes drastically etc - even when you are shooting RAW - spending time adjusting to give uniformity and consistency is still time wasted and not fast. Im not sure if the Einstein can maintain that high speed shooting at t0.1 too, but I dont know.

But god bless IGTB flashes and opening up a lot more doors for creativity.

Have a look at this video made by Broncolor, which is very similar to the one you posted above. But comparing Profoto and Broncolor only, of which there is great rivalry between them in their leading packs.

http://blog.bronimaging.com/2011/12/broncolor-the-light-video-series-bron-vs-profoto/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Bronimagingblog+%28BronImagingBlog%29

I @ M
09-10-2012, 6:08pm
Waz, that guy has been doing that for quite a while now and it seems that by booking into his courses you get to pay a helluva lot to learn his photoshop techniques to create the images from the "raw" material.

All a bit like many photographers who rave about the gear but leave most of the production to the computer with presets and so forth.

Cyza
09-10-2012, 6:15pm
wow I would have thought those kind of effetcs are done entirely in post.
amazing

JM Tran
09-10-2012, 6:18pm
wow I would have thought those kind of effetcs are done entirely in post.
amazing

It is done in post, the RAW shots provide the ground work for more extensive editing later using a variety of tools, like Liquify:)

Cyza
09-10-2012, 6:53pm
But I mean they actually splash water onto the models, I would have imagined they wore specially made clothes or something and then edited from there.

ameerat42
09-10-2012, 6:56pm
Cooden understand a wordy said. Poor diction, and no real explification of what they were doing.
Talk of eating your words!
Anyway, hook airs?
A(h!)m.

PS, as a prologue, it did look an interesting effect.:rolleyes:

WhoDo
09-10-2012, 8:50pm
PS, as a prologue, it did look an interesting effect.:rolleyes:

Or as a postlog even! :p

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But god bless IGTB flashes and opening up a lot more doors for creativity.


All a bit like many photographers who rave about the gear but leave most of the production to the computer with presets and so forth.

Well, the bottom line for me was I didn't give a toss about the gear ... Broncolor (sp?), Einstein, whatever ... all I cared about was how great the end result looked on those models; like they had actually clothed themselves in the liquid. I loved it! I don't want to spend $600-$700, much less $12,000+, to duplicate it, though. It was just the result that gave me goosebumps! :confused013

Mat
09-10-2012, 8:53pm
Thanks for posting this link... It was very interesting and a good insight.

enigmatic
09-10-2012, 9:05pm
I have never seen anything like this so I'm a little godsmacked. Cool stuff!

geoffsta
10-10-2012, 6:42am
Wow Waz. That is amazing stuff. But I'm like you, I wouldn't go out and buy the stuff. It would take many frames, and countless hours in front of a computer to create the end result. Which I don't think I'd do.

ameerat42
10-10-2012, 9:05am
...godsmacked...

H:lol:

That IS enigmatic!!

achee
10-10-2012, 10:13pm
Hmmm... interesting. I haven't given much thought before to flash durations, although I have tried studio-lights-lit-water-spashing photography in the past and I was never very thrilled by the lack of sharpness I achieved. Is there a way to measure my flash duration using non-specialist equipment?

JM Tran
10-10-2012, 10:29pm
Hmmm... interesting. I haven't given much thought before to flash durations, although I have tried studio-lights-lit-water-spashing photography in the past and I was never very thrilled by the lack of sharpness I achieved. Is there a way to measure my flash duration using non-specialist equipment?

Yeah there are some equipment u can use to measure it, but generally manufacturers will state it or online tests can show you just as good.

Its to do with the flash 'tail', when after the main flash has gone off, which peaks on the graph - then there is a tail of light after. For IGTB equipped flashes, after the peak there is generally no tail as it flattens out, hence resulting in a much more shorter flash duration but at the same power. This freezes subjects much better and prevents blurring etc.

achee
11-10-2012, 10:40am
BTW, what is "t.01" ?

JM Tran
11-10-2012, 10:41am
BTW, what is "t.01" ?

t0.1 and t0.5 are measurements of power output at different percentage etc, I cant bothered explaining it but you can easily find it on google or via the manufacturers:)