Photoshop CS5 or CS5 Extended?

[Fedgrub]

Hi all,

Looking at investing in Photoshop CS5, but looking at the prices, what's with the huge price difference (around $600 in most cases) between the regular CS5 and Extended? Extended claims to have all the same features, plus 3D animation stuff I won't need, so why is Extended much cheaper?

Also, I hear CS6 is coming out soon? What are the upgrade fees generally?

I'm getting a student edition for study (and hobby and work), so does anyone have any places they'd recommend getting it from?

Thanks in advance!

[rodw]

I have used Harris technology a few times and student purchase is no drama. Just remember that you have to be endorsed as a student by Adobe before you can enter a license string and use the software.

I can't help with the versions though!

[ameerat42]

Investing? Hope you get something out of it.
Extended likely means "merely" extended price, while they don't say that the other is "over-" extended in price.

(Force fields up! Hit it about "intellectual property".)
:violent10: ||| :D

[camerasnoop]

You don't need extended. That is for 3D editing.

[unistudent1962]

http://www.coop-bookshop.com.au/bookshop/show/9789993668237

Student price from the Co-op Bookshop $175 for Extended.

[Kym]

I'm getting a student edition for study (and hobby and work)

I hope by 'work' you don't mean paid work, because you are not supposed to use student licenses for commercial work.

[Fedgrub]

I have used Harris technology a few times and student purchase is no drama. Just remember that you have to be endorsed as a student by Adobe before you can enter a license string and use the software.

I can't help with the versions though!

Cool, that's no problem. Thanks for the reminder!


You don't need extended. That is for 3D editing.

I know I don't need it, but because it's significantly cheaper I might as well go for that one, but that's why I'm checking if they are both the same versions just the only difference being one has 3D editing capabilities.


I hope by 'work' you don't mean paid work, because you are not supposed to use student licenses for commercial work.

It's for the rare situations where I might need to bring work home I don't finish in the office. That will be 10% of the use, I'm hardly going to get a second key or something just for that small portion.

I appreciate the replies, but no one has really answered my first two questions. Anyone have any info on these?

Thanks!

[ricktas]

Your question was why is one version so much cheaper? The answer is the same as it is for most things, features! Take a car, add alloy wheels, sunroof, leather seats, etc and you pay a premium for these extras, but they don't (generally) make the car perform better, be more fuel efficient etc.

You need to decide what features you want, and will use, and then buy based on that. No use spending an extra $800 on a GPS navigation system, if all you ever do is drive around your local suburb, eh? You have already said you do not want 3D animation, so I think you already know the answer to which version you need to get.

Re using the student version for work, I seriously doubt you will get caught, but if you do, you might end up with a substantial fine. Up to you to decide if it is worth doing or not. Also this forum is publicly visible, so someone at Adobe could already have read this.

[Epicaricacy]

Here is a version comparison
http://www.pointsinfocus.com/2010/04/photoshop-cs5-or-cs5-feature-comparison/

In Australia, CS5 shows as costing $1168, CS5 Extended costs $1761

However, as you are looking at the Student/Teacher edition, CS5 extended costs $201.00

The reason you are seeing a price difference is that you are comparing the regular price for CS5 with the Student price for CS5 Extended. There is no Student version of just CS5

Thus, if you are student you are better off buying the CS5 Extended, even if you do not plan on using the 3D features.

Here is the info on the usage limitations for academic editions;

http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-EDU-AU&event=displayEduConditions&nr=0

In terms of usage, all I could find was that it must be for use on your personally owned computer. I can't find anywhere that you are not allowed to use it for commercial work - just not on a commercially owned computer. For example, if you worked from home for a photography company, and they provided you with a PC, then you would not be able to. However, from what I can read, if you worked from home for a photography company and used your own personal pc, then you are eligible. For example, the blurb on the Student/Teacher edition of Litghtroom 3 tells you to;


Focus on what you love about photography with Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® 3 software, an intuitive digital darkroom and efficient assistant designed for serious amateur and professional photographers

I would assume a professional is one that makes money from their photos...

Quoted from Adobe's Restrictions of Use;
Restrictions on use
You may purchase only one license of any Adobe Student and Teacher Edition product within a 12 month period. Purchases of Suite editions (such as Design Premium or Master Collection) are limited to one title per platform per year. This license may be used only on your privately owned computer. Student and Teacher Edition products may not be resold


If in doubt you could always contact Adobe.

Hope this helps!

[Fedgrub]

Your question was why is one version so much cheaper? The answer is the same as it is for most things, features! Take a car, add alloy wheels, sunroof, leather seats, etc and you pay a premium for these extras, but they don't (generally) make the car perform better, be more fuel efficient etc.

You need to decide what features you want, and will use, and then buy based on that. No use spending an extra $800 on a GPS navigation system, if all you ever do is drive around your local suburb, eh? You have already said you do not want 3D animation, so I think you already know the answer to which version you need to get.

Re using the student version for work, I seriously doubt you will get caught, but if you do, you might end up with a substantial fine. Up to you to decide if it is worth doing or not. Also this forum is publicly visible, so someone at Adobe could already have read this.

Good to know and also good point, Rick. Thanks!


Here is a version comparison
http://www.pointsinfocus.com/2010/04/photoshop-cs5-or-cs5-feature-comparison/

In Australia, CS5 shows as costing $1168, CS5 Extended costs $1761

However, as you are looking at the Student/Teacher edition, CS5 extended costs $201.00

The reason you are seeing a price difference is that you are comparing the regular price for CS5 with the Student price for CS5 Extended. There is no Student version of just CS5

Thus, if you are student you are better off buying the CS5 Extended, even if you do not plan on using the 3D features.

Here is the info on the usage limitations for academic editions;

http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-EDU-AU&event=displayEduConditions&nr=0

In terms of usage, all I could find was that it must be for use on your personally owned computer. I can't find anywhere that you are not allowed to use it for commercial work - just not on a commercially owned computer. For example, if you worked from home for a photography company, and they provided you with a PC, then you would not be able to. However, from what I can read, if you worked from home for a photography company and used your own personal pc, then you are eligible. For example, the blurb on the Student/Teacher edition of Litghtroom 3 tells you to;


Focus on what you love about photography with Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® 3 software, an intuitive digital darkroom and efficient assistant designed for serious amateur and professional photographers

I would assume a professional is one that makes money from their photos...

Quoted from Adobe's Restrictions of Use;
Restrictions on use
You may purchase only one license of any Adobe Student and Teacher Edition product within a 12 month period. Purchases of Suite editions (such as Design Premium or Master Collection) are limited to one title per platform per year. This license may be used only on your privately owned computer. Student and Teacher Edition products may not be resold


If in doubt you could always contact Adobe.

Hope this helps!



That is what I'm missing! Damn, can't believe I missed that now. Also interesting take on the terms of use, I doubt I will need it for work overflow but just mentioned it because you never know. Mostly for my uni units and hobby. Thanks for the info!

[Epicaricacy]

Your question was why is one version so much cheaper? The answer is the same as it is for most things, features! Take a car, add alloy wheels, sunroof, leather seats, etc and you pay a premium for these extras, but they don't (generally) make the car perform better, be more fuel efficient etc.
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Except in this case the version looked at has MORE features for less money... but it is because the student version with more features being compared to the non-student version...